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Overview Filtering Needs Simplification

Author
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#1 - 2012-02-22 14:15:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
Overview Filter "State" Settings is very obtuse as well as very very non-sensical from the standpoint of WHY would you want to filter like this.

The issue is simple :

For example, In order to see a CORP MATE to filter out ONLY FOR CORP MATES you can NOT DO IT. You are forced to show all "No Standings"/"Blue Standings", etc with your corpmates because :

  • You need to add has "Low" OR "Bad" security standings, so you see any corpmates with low sec standings
  • You need to add NO STANDING filter, so you see corpmates you don't have set any standings.
  • As of the last patch you now also need to add "HAS A BOUNTY", so you HAVE TO SEE people with bounties, if you have corpmates with bounties.

  • Basically, it's IMPOSSIBLE TO say "I want to filter for "Pilot is in your corp". and ONLY see corpmates. You have to see, PIRATE, NEUTRALS, and BOUNTIES. Basically, you HAVE to show everyone anyways!! The check should show any and all people who match those criteria being checked, not only those who intersect at the selected criteria.

    The reason is simple, the Overview Filter states works on some pseudo-INTERSECTION LOGIC rather than simply UNION logic of all who meet the criteria checked

    ON top of it all, it bugs out when I change the pilots standings in the middle of changing overview settings.

    This video demonstrates how filtering is crazy :

    http://youtu.be/c1xegAGYV8U

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    Fraa Bjorn
    Cell 317
    #2 - 2012-02-22 18:38:25 UTC
    Overview settings, along with corp role settings, are bordering being unusable IMHO. I'd be great if these were simplified. Currently it seems that the only way to learn how to do it proper is to get into a nullsec alliance and get access to the mystical "how to unfuck your overview" et al.
    CCP, this is one area where the new player experience is less than ideal!

    All games have QQ, but only Eve has Q.Q

    Bloodpetal
    Tir Capital Management Group
    #3 - 2012-02-22 18:51:56 UTC
    Fraa Bjorn wrote:
    Overview settings, along with corp role settings, are bordering being unusable IMHO. I'd be great if these were simplified. Currently it seems that the only way to learn how to do it proper is to get into a nullsec alliance and get access to the mystical "how to unfuck your overview" et al.
    CCP, this is one area where the new player experience is less than ideal!


    The only thing you can really do is turn off fleet and corp friendlies from showing up, because that successfully makes sure that you never see them.

    After that, it's pretty much impossible to filter for anything.

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    Bloodpetal
    Tir Capital Management Group
    #4 - 2012-03-13 01:40:08 UTC
    Attention Needs some attention!

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    Daeva Teresa
    Viziam
    Amarr Empire
    #5 - 2012-03-13 07:22:46 UTC
    +1 overview filtering is absolutely unlogical / unintuitive / etc and needs adresing "soon".

    CCP really please dont use Upgraded, Limited, Experimental and Prototype in item names. It sounds like the item is actually worse than basic meta 1 item. Use Calibrated, Enhanced, Optimized and Upgraded. Its really easy to understand that the item is better than meta 1 and its also in alphabetic order.

    James Amril-Kesh
    Viziam
    Amarr Empire
    #6 - 2012-03-13 07:32:30 UTC
    I agree, this does need to be fixed ASAP.

    Enjoying the rain today? ;)

    Bloodpetal
    Tir Capital Management Group
    #7 - 2012-03-13 08:26:20 UTC
    Thanks for the support. Pirate

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    Bloodpetal
    Tir Capital Management Group
    #8 - 2012-05-02 14:58:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
    Bumped for the recent comment in the new devblog.

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=103974

    Quote:
    Among the Jita Burners complaints are few and praise is plentiful, but we all agree that without TiDi none of this would have been possible. In fact, after asking all of our allies what they thought I only received one complaint! The only real problems that I was asked to mention was blackscreening on undock and not being able to make a war target only overview.

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