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New dev blog: Backwards Then Forwards

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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-02-22 17:52:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Crucis Cassiopeiae
So... CCP,
Do you (will you ever) give a squat about not pew-pew players in EVE???
Industry and mining is on life support and you don't give a squat about players that like that part of game.
How much more indy ppl need to leave eve until you throw us a bone?
EVE needs at least one BIG Industry and Mining expansion.

You are building a roof without a foundations.

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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-02-22 17:52:47 UTC
I approve of this \o/
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#23 - 2012-02-22 17:53:41 UTC
awesome. i hope the inferno spends a bit of its hellfire for the bounty system. (hint: link in my sig)

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#24 - 2012-02-22 17:55:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Obsidian Hawk
What are indies complaining about. I make a ton of isk on my indy alt doing t2 invention and other t1 production. it isnt on life support you are doing it wrong.


Also rule of acquisition #34.

War is good for profit.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-02-22 17:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Alx Warlord
Wohoo!!! New Expansion for us!!!

And how about that Cloak hunter ship? When it will be released? We need a way to protect the minners against them... Cool

Please read these!

New POS system New SOV system
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#26 - 2012-02-22 17:58:34 UTC
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-02-22 18:02:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Crucis Cassiopeiae
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
What are indies complaining about. I make a ton of isk on my indy alt doing t2 invention and other t1 production. it isnt on life support you are doing it wrong.


Also rule of acquisition #34.

War is good for profit.



That is THE problem.
Industry in EVE fall to the lowest branches of the EVE tree - profession for alts only.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#28 - 2012-02-22 18:03:27 UTC
....maybe it's time to start pooling money into the corp wardec divisional wallet again.

Off to Fountain... time to up the 'ol sec status. Empire carebears... hope to see you soon™

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#29 - 2012-02-22 18:05:16 UTC

I'm very curious to see how you're changing the war dec system.

Bring the devblogs on. Bear

Where I am.
Pollo Rico
Pollo Hermano
#30 - 2012-02-22 18:09:38 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
P.s. Personally...I think 2012 will be the best year ever for our EVE. :')

Pollo not approve of this CCP Guard's EVE... Pollo he want his EVE back...

http://tinyurl.com/Pollo-Approves
Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#31 - 2012-02-22 18:11:06 UTC
I know I am the minority on this, and I hate to complain, but as much as a 'concentration in Space stuffs' is great for EVE Online (a spaceship oriented game) I was one of the (I suppose few?) players who were really excited for the WIS stuff. I figured when the game was refocused on the FIS content that the WIS content would still be slow trickle.

I see that this Inferno release is expanding on the CAC and possibly vanity store. I'm wondering if the WIS content is still being developed as I was very interested in:

- The booster/drug trade in bars/social rooms.
- Social minigames for when I don't have it in me to grind another Caldari mission or am waiting for a fleet to be organized through my corp/alliance.
- Space barbie.

I know while I may have been excited for these features, and may have been one of the few, was anyone else looking forward to this? And if a Dev is watching, is any of this still on the table? Does that table have a person around it by chance?
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#32 - 2012-02-22 18:17:16 UTC
Tyme Xandr wrote:
I know I am the minority on this, and I hate to complain, but as much as a 'concentration in Space stuffs' is great for EVE Online (a spaceship oriented game) I was one of the (I suppose few?) players who were really excited for the WIS stuff. I figured when the game was refocused on the FIS content that the WIS content would still be slow trickle.

I see that this Inferno release is expanding on the CAC and possibly vanity store. I'm wondering if the WIS content is still being developed as I was very interested in:

- The booster/drug trade in bars/social rooms.
- Social minigames for when I don't have it in me to grind another Caldari mission or am waiting for a fleet to be organized through my corp/alliance.
- Space barbie.

I know while I may have been excited for these features, and may have been one of the few, was anyone else looking forward to this? And if a Dev is watching, is any of this still on the table? Does that table have a person around it by chance?


There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread Blink

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-02-22 18:17:41 UTC
Time to make New Eden burn.

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#34 - 2012-02-22 18:20:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyme Xandr
Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
So... CCP,
Do you (will you ever) give a squat about not pew-pew players in EVE???
Industry and mining is on life support and you don't give a squat about players that like that part of game.
How much more indy ppl need to leave eve until you throw us a bone?
EVE needs at least one BIG Industry and Mining expansion.

You are building a roof without a foundations.


You mean the several expansions in a row that focused around non combat - like the PI expansion, the inclusion of a salvaging boat in the noctis, the exploration boat in the Echelon, the wormholes where u have safer nullsec ores and sleepers to kill and harvest for production.

PVP hasnt exactly been expanded on that much in recent years - especially considering the focus of EVE is fight and conquer.

CCP already said youre not getting a beter miner than a Hulk, you have industrials, freighters, jump freighters, industrial capital ship (Rorq), and a hisec mini capital ship (Orca).


That being said, what kind of new content related to industry are you considering?

CCP Guard wrote:

There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread Blink


That sounds great, and I will be there, thanks for quick response!
Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-02-22 18:31:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Crucis Cassiopeiae
Tyme Xandr wrote:
Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
So... CCP,
Do you (will you ever) give a squat about not pew-pew players in EVE???
Industry and mining is on life support and you don't give a squat about players that like that part of game.
How much more indy ppl need to leave eve until you throw us a bone?
EVE needs at least one BIG Industry and Mining expansion.

You are building a roof without a foundations.


You mean the several expansions in a row that focused around non combat - like the PI expansion, the inclusion of a salvaging boat in the noctis, the exploration boat in the Echelon, the wormholes where u have safer nullsec ores and sleepers to kill and harvest for production.

PVP hasnt exactly been expanded on that much in recent years - especially considering the focus of EVE is fight and conquer.

CCP already said youre not getting a beter miner than a Hulk, you have industrials, freighters, jump freighters, industrial capital ship (Rorq), and a hisec mini capital ship (Orca).


That being said, what kind of new content related to industry are you considering?

CCP Guard wrote:

There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread Blink


That sounds great, and I will be there, thanks for quick response!



I didn't ask for new ship.
I am asking for complete revamp of mining and industry - what many many ppl are asking.
Just read hundreds if not thousands threads with mining/industry revamp ideas - anything is better from what we have now.


p.s.
And what is with things that CCP promised, whats with comets and comet mining?


_________________________________________________________________________________________________

And about WiS.
I want news about it, and i want it too... Big smile

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Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#36 - 2012-02-22 18:36:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyme Xandr
All the threads concerning changing mining to a more active style of mining have always been swarmed by the mining masses who mine while watching TV and movies or whatever. CCP wont ever change mining as it would result in another ***** fest in jita where they will do something ******** like shooting a statue ... and people will quit, etc. We've all seen the EVE Community is incapable of changing whether its for the good or not.

As for S&I like research and stuff, havent they made it easier in the last few months? Ive been on break from EVE since this past summer (still had active accounts) and havent done anything really of note to notice.

Instead of just saying 'Go read F&I' why dont you give a summary of a real suggestion (concrete) here where devs are obviously watching. I had a dev reply to me almost instantly after my post.

Edit: And CCP said something that they dropped comet/meteor mining due to issues with having solar system wide moving objects - keeping players speed with them, etc. That was a long time ago though, ill try googling the info in a few hours.
Vrykolakasis
Sparrowhawks Corp
#37 - 2012-02-22 18:38:51 UTC
Jowen Datloran wrote:
So, for one that does not participate in any form of ship pew-pew with other players whatsoever, does 'Inferno' holds any new content at all?

EDIT: I mean something with actual depth and interactive content; new pretty graphics does not count.



Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
So... CCP,
Do you (will you ever) give a squat about not pew-pew players in EVE???
Industry and mining is on life support and you don't give a squat about players that like that part of game.
How much more indy ppl need to leave eve until you throw us a bone?
EVE needs at least one BIG Industry and Mining expansion.

You are building a roof without a foundations.


I understand the importance of industry, and I too would like to see some improvements in that area. What I don't understand is playing a space game with other people and not wanting to fight other people. If you want to be an awesome industry leader with absurd piles of money, fighting only fights you can win, all with relative ease, go play one of the X-universe games or something.

In the real world, the people at the heads of industry are some of the most powerful in the world. However, the vast majority of people actually doing the production have lousy lives, lousy professions, are walked all over by the more powerful. In a game that tries (and does a good job) to make a simulated universe, that's how it's going to be, and to change that would break the system. Unlike the real world, however, you have the option of, with little consequence, going to the house of your enemy and shooting him in the face. Why so many people choose not to, I don't understand.
Aselox Dallcort
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-02-22 18:39:16 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:

There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread Blink


Wow can't wait to read it! Big smile
Thank you CCP Guard to be so much close to the community. Very few Comunity Managers do it. I really appreciate it.
Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#39 - 2012-02-22 18:41:29 UTC
Vrykolakasis wrote:
Jowen Datloran wrote:
words



Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
words.


I understand the importance of industry, and I too would like to see some improvements in that area. What I don't understand is playing a space game with other people and not wanting to fight other people. If you want to be an awesome industry leader with absurd piles of money, fighting only fights you can win, all with relative ease, go play one of the X-universe games or something.

In the real world, the people at the heads of industry are some of the most powerful in the world. However, the vast majority of people actually doing the production have lousy lives, lousy professions, are walked all over by the more powerful. In a game that tries (and does a good job) to make a simulated universe, that's how it's going to be, and to change that would break the system. Unlike the real world, however, you have the option of, with little consequence, going to the house of your enemy and shooting him in the face. Why so many people choose not to, I don't understand.


Couldn't have said it better.
Kethry Avenger
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2012-02-22 18:49:15 UTC
Well the tease sounds pretty good. So hopefully this is the expansion that gets EVE back up to date and fixed. And then we can have EVE: TotalHellDeath in the winter!

Still seriously want you to call an expansion EVE: TotalHellDeath. But when your ready and you think it is worthy of the title.

Please keep focusing on Flying in Space for this whole year.

There are things talked about for WIS that I was intrigued about, criminal activates(for my alts), playing poker( a must) and other PvP gambling for isk, PvE gambling, establishments, interesting ways that are functional to plan a war. But EVE FIS needs a good year of work to make it the coolest space ship game again and I hope you keep that focus.

Very excited for DUST, just hope it doesn't end up costing me more than a couple EVE subscriptions to make an difference, I don't want it to be pay to win but won't mind pay for convenience in a F2P model. And please don't ever make EVE any more F2P.

Well good luck with expansion, and get those fanfest videos up as fast as possible for those of us who can't make it to do to RL being a real drag on our ability to travel.