These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Assembly Hall

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

[Proposal] A Permanent solution to the Supercap problem
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#61 - 2012-02-22 09:05:59 UTC
stagz wrote:
once apon a time, hardly anyone had this thing called a battleship.
it was mighty and everyone wanted one.

catch my drift?


allow supercarriers the ability to carry 20 bombers and 20 fighters.
you nerfed their HP and removed sub-cap drone useage.
TO MUCH!
its just ridiculous that "super-carrier" cannot even carry a full load of drones.

vote 1 drone bay expansion.

Giving supers more fighter bay wouldn't be bad, I don't think, as long as they don't get normal drones back.

I do think that fighters should have a 'skirmish' setting where they engage other fighters and fighter bombers without direct commands from the pilot. After all, they are not drones, they supposedly have a person inside flying them.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#62 - 2012-02-22 09:20:50 UTC
stagz wrote:
once apon a time, hardly anyone had this thing called a battleship.
it was mighty and everyone wanted one.

catch my drift?


allow supercarriers the ability to carry 20 bombers and 20 fighters.
you nerfed their HP and removed sub-cap drone useage.
TO MUCH!
its just ridiculous that "super-carrier" cannot even carry a full load of drones.

vote 1 drone bay expansion.


This is a supercaps alliance answer.
No way. Remove their EW immunity. Increase their value to atleast 50 billion.
Siege for fighter bombers etc,etc,etc. Keep nerf them or the supercapital blobs will ruin the whole game to crap.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#63 - 2012-02-22 09:25:43 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
stagz wrote:
once apon a time, hardly anyone had this thing called a battleship.
it was mighty and everyone wanted one.

catch my drift?


allow supercarriers the ability to carry 20 bombers and 20 fighters.
you nerfed their HP and removed sub-cap drone useage.
TO MUCH!
its just ridiculous that "super-carrier" cannot even carry a full load of drones.

vote 1 drone bay expansion.


This is a supercaps alliance answer.
No way. Remove their EW immunity. Increase their value to atleast 50 billion.
Siege for fighter bombers etc,etc,etc. Keep nerf them or the supercapital blobs will ruin the whole game to crap.

Super carriers were nerfed effectively enough that they no longer pose a significant threat to a subcap fleet. Titans are the problem at this point, since with a group of then one of them almost always has you at 0 traversal, and thats all they need to alpha most subcaps(or at least sub battleships, not sure about BS themselves).

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#64 - 2012-02-22 12:14:15 UTC
Just delete the damn things, and give back the SP.

They were a mistake since day one

95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.
Tekashi Kovacs
Golfclap Inc
#65 - 2012-02-22 12:22:18 UTC
Joshua Aivoras wrote:
Just delete the damn things, and give back the SP.

They were a mistake since day one


This.

and bring back BS < carrier < dread < BS balance. The simplier the better.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#66 - 2012-02-22 12:59:56 UTC
mxzf wrote:
What is the issue that needs to be fixed? How would this fix the issue? And why is this the best possible solution?



The issue comes from several points, Titans and Super caps are mostly in null sec right, so lets see:

Who can afford those and what's their income resource

Who builds those, how many per month and how do they get the materials needed to build those

How are those used and what players complain about


Well I guess we have some questions that clearly need data for serious answers, but everyone living in null for enough time can give some answer.

Now CCP if there's something they should clearly do is not to take thse away from the game but increase by 500% required materials for start then make sort those titans/dreadnaughts can't hit a single battleship MWD's if he's not in his straight line or static. It's ridiculous how those capital ships can one shot cruisers/BC's/BS in full movement.
Just go to Eve-kill and look at the number of Titans/dreads involved in BC/Cruiser kills by applying some dps or the number of those where Titans/dreads are the only dps.

If you're not willing to increase the materials needed to build those, then get rid of their stupid immunity, get rid of the possibility for those to get remote links.
Why a simple T1 frigate should be able to pin T3's and T2 battleships that should be the most electronics sophisticated ships and can't pin a giant dildo that can even one shot them with enough remote bonus?

Super caps, Titans shouldn't be able to hit one battle ship in movement, they should be defenceless to Battleships as Battleships are to Assault frigs, you can get them but it's a very tricky business.