Intergalactic Summit

I'm sure the Intaki people are.. most excited to be under Federation control again.

Can't expect a totalitarian to know anything about politics. You still owe me that second drink by the way.

I should make a "Federation for dummies" IGS essay thing.

I know, right? Our history is full of the wonders of the Federation. I was taught to pray nightly to the Maker for their return.

The Federation doesn't give a damn?

Would you really appreciate warships under the command from a distant President all the way in Villore to dictate to the local government how security matters should be run?

I didn't think so.

You contracted Mordu's Legion via your own consent. Anti-piracy affairs are your concerns, under your legal rights as per the Federal Charter. Go speak to them.

General, I wonder whether you understand some aspects of a Federal system either. Ms Vitalia has hit the proverbial nail on the head with her response.

Let us look at the example of the political system chosen by Intaki free from the Federal oppression of the time. The Syndicate model, with each independent station being autonomous, almost sovereign in it's own right, but together collaborating in areas of trade (Intaki Commerce), security (Intaki Space Police) or finance (Intaki Bank) appears to operate as a confederation.

General I invite you to research the difference between the confederation and federation systems, and bear Ms Vitalia's comments in mind when you do. For your convenience:

By definition, the difference between a confederation and a federation is that the membership of the member states in a confederation is voluntary, while the membership in a federation is not.

We're all well aware of the Federation's reaction the last time someone wanted to leave.

But the Federation today is a different place. It's perhaps unfair to judge governments of the past by the standards of today. Oppression has turned to neglect.


Here we have the standard template response whenever someone points out that piracy is a concern.

While it might be true that for the last couple of years Mordu's Legion has been operating in the Intaki system, what about the rest of Placid? What about before the Legion were contracted?

No, the Federation doesn't give a damn. It doesn't give a damn about security in Placid from Ostingele to Orvolle.

It certainly didn't give a damn after the humanitarian disaster in Reschard, leaving others to take care of the recovery effort.


I think it's a fair assessment that the only interest both Federation and State militias have for the Intaki system is in preventing the other from having it. Why else would the STPRO neglect to defend and reclaim their own systems in Black Rise and ignore half of Placid to strike at Intaki? Why else would the FDU fall over themselves to retake the system once more when only months ago Esesier and Harroule languished under State control without respite for a good deal longer?

Any attempts to convince us that the FDU in particular are looking out for the interests of Intaki security are laughable.

What we're looking at here is militia pride. Bragging rights. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yes, they keep repeating that template response through the years like brainless robots.
I believe its a nice way to admit they can't do anything about piracy in their own backyard. Like you stated: its a matter of security that goes well before any fight between both militias took place in Placid and has always been a Placid-wide problem, not just Intaki's.



If the Federation tried something like that I'd admit it would be giving a damn.

If anything I learned from ILF is that they will always complain, no matter what the situation is.

Talk about bitterness.

I didn't say they asked for minimal protection, they asked to be self automated in all local security concerns. The fact that their security has been ineffective at best up till this point is not a finger of blame towards the Federation.

Nor is the changing of ways a finger of blame towards the Federation. You'll remember when the FDU took back Intaki in their great turn around at the start of last year, the Intaki barred any entry by the Federation Navy due to said agreement. The argument is still apt to day, if it's to change it'll be on the Intaki government's terms, and till now they haven't requested any change in the charter.

Isn't it? Tell me, Mr Marellus, how exactly do you expect the Intaki Assembly to generate its own, proper security force in Intaki, or anywhere else in Placid, when the Federation has a choke hold on station grants in this area?

Can you find any Intaki Assembly stations in orbit around any celestial bodies in Placid? No? Neither can I. How about securing work from agents employed by the Assembly? Such persons would have the Assembly's interest, rather than the Federation's, as focus. No? Can't find any of them either, whether Security or Distribution or Mining or R&D. Because of this the Assembly cannot even directly contract independent capsuleers for any purpose.

How effective do you think the Assembly's security force might turn out to be if made to beg at the Federation's skirts for rental space to house ships, crews, pilots, training facilities, and so on? Do you think the Assembly would find it to be good fiscal sense to be at the mercy of Federation budgets and taxes in such locations, rather than being able to collect their own revenue via their own stations to feed back into their security program to help offset the operating costs a security force incurs? Or do you expect civilians living on Intaki and other colonies in Placid to pay the rental bills through taxes in addition to footing the bill for the security force itself?

Or perhaps you think the Assembly should have to erect its own POS like any common independent capsuleer corporation? As a charter signatory certainly they should be entitled to establishing their own stations!

For that matter, while the Assembly has their agreement with Ishukone and Mordu's, neither of these organizations have, to date, secured their own local station property either. Note that I'm not saying they necessarily should be allowed to build their own station in Intaki, but doesn’t it seem rather curious that nothing of that sort has come about? Even a State entity as grudgingly agreeable as Ishukone must feel some disdain at being forced to base from a station owned by a Federation-aligned entity.

When pressed about this topic at the YC113 Holoreel Convention, representatives of the Federation could offer no satisfactory explanation about station rights, agents, and such related matters except to say the Assembly had not secured the proper approvals. Funny how all the existing stations are directly linked to the Federation. Funny how the Intaki Assembly only denied the Federation Navy access to the Intaki system itself, yet so much more of Placid is vacant of proper policing and thus remains low security space by CONCORD standards. What is the navy's excuse for this? They are stretched thin? Please.

How much bureaucratic red tape is actually thrown up in order to deny the Assembly the approvals they would need in order to do the job the Federation agreed to allow the Assembly to undertake? I'd be willing to bet the Federation would say something akin to From our cold, dead hands before releasing any existing station rights or allowing any additional ones in Intaki, or anywhere else for that matter. To do so would actually allow the Assembly to get its foot in the door and be one step closer to becoming truly autonomous, and thus independent, from the "great" Gallente nation.