EVE General Discussion

Once you get into it more, stop fail fitting and have a sense of what to do, youll enjoy it that much more.

Try going to 0.0, no sentry guns, no standing loss.
more dangerous foes however.

lol. yep. like having sex for the first time.

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"250 Hellcats inbound sir! They have us outmanned and outgunned. What are we going to do?" "catnip of course......."

:facepalm: be sure to post up your experience there too, when it happens.

Thanks all, I've always beena bit nervous of losing my ship so stayed well clear of low and null sec but constant mission running is getting boring so we wanted to branch out and have some fun.
If we die, we die and we will die, we'll die a lot. But what the hell! What's the point of ISK if you can't spend it having fun and blowing up some internet pixel ships

Now thats just funny. However I have fit Cruiser gunz on a BS before on purpose (I could have used the big ones) but its a little hard to hit Sleeper Frigates with BS gunz without a lil help. Sometimes the ends justify the means.

Have to agree with this point.


I made this account simply to PVP and my main to earn isk to cover my losses, i joined a PVP training corp - PWND Factor - (who were all excellent btw) and joined some roams into low/null.

That initial buzz when we found a small gang like us justified the plex i have to earn to cover for this account, the blood pumping, the heart beating real fast and at first, your FC barking primaries and then inevitably forgetting everything you were tought as the adreneline just makes your mind blank out, then realizing your in your pod before you can compose yourself lol

That to me is priceless and will keep me playing this game as long as possible.

Unfortuntely my main cant quite earn enough to cover this guys loss mails yet, and my previous PVP school's corp FC's were U.S based so it was a struggle getting a roam going unless i stayed up until crazy o'clock in the morning which killed me the following day (UK based)

So, until i gather enough isk to start losing ships again or a mysterious benefactor starts sponsoring me, i'm stuck in an NPC corp skilling up and slowly dying of boredom as missioning just doesnt cut it for me anymore


Kudos to you and your friend though for taking the step into low sec ( tbh whenever i was in there 9 out of 10 systems were totally empty or had 2/3 players in so cant understand the fear that high sec people have for it )

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Seconding the advice to go to null sec, especially if you plan on using frigates or other lightly tanked ships. Unfortunately, low sec gate guns can track frigates just as well as they can track BSes.. and apply the same amount of DPS to both. This has basically killed off solo frig combat in low. It can be fun however to roam through low a bit in order to try to gank ratters and missioners when your in that kind of mood, just be aware of your GCC timer and do not engage on gates or stations.

For actual fights though, you are much better off in null, specifically npc null. Sov null tends to be filled with blobs. You can actually pick off stragglers from Sov alliance blobs as a solo or small gang PVPer, but this requires you to REALLY know what you are doing, and even if you do everything right... will end with you DIAF quite often. NPC null on the other hand, contains many more small gangs and soloers. I suggest you find an area that seems to meet your needs, and spend a little bit of time just getting familiar with who lives out there... and how they operate. Knowing that the ceptor pilot you are about to engage belongs to big PVP alliance that often uses ceptors to scout much larger gangs, for example, is an important thing to know.

As far as gal frigs go.. The T1 stuff is less than amassing. The Tristan is not terrible, but it will have a hard time standing up to most other frig hulls. The Assault ships on the other hand can be flown to great effect. I personally prefer the Ishkur, but I know several people who use the Enyo on a regular basis. I highly recommend cross training to other races frigates, as it does not take very long and will provide you with a much wider array of options for different situations. It will also give you access to some of the pirate faction frigates, which are extremely fun to fly.

Also, I have been having lots of fun with the navy faction frigs. The imp navy slicer can be extremely effective solo, and I had just about the most fun I have ever had in EVE in a fed navy comet fleet last night.

The thing about frigates, is they are very unforgiving of mistakes. In my opinion this is a very good thing for new pilots as it will quickly show you where you can improve for next time. I recommend using fraps or a similar program to record your fights so that you can watch it later and get a much better idea of what things you did right... and what you did wrong. Frigate combat is very face paced, and even experienced players have a hard time catching every thing that happens during the fight.

And last but not least... make sure you set up your overview and UI to maximize your ability to quick process the information it is telling you and to be able to quickly preform the actions that you need to.

Some quick tips here:

1. Make use of the five available overview tabs to display different sets of objects grouped according to when you need them. I am currently using A: brawl tab which only displays neutral and hostile ships (no gates, stations, wrecks, containters, ect..) sorted by distance. B: travel tab which is the same as previous with gates and WHs. C: utility tab which can be used to display things such as hostile drones, fleet mates, npcs, ect.. depending on what I am doing. A new profile can be loaded to this tab quickly by simply right clicking the tab and selecting it. D: loot tab which shows wrecks and containers. E: pod saver tab which shows all planets, customs offices, and the sun. This is used in some situations simply to align to a specific celestial or when your ship is going down to select a celestial from here and spam the warp button as your ship dies. Your pod will warp off as soon as you die assuming you are not in a bubble.

2. You can use a different profile for brackets shown in space than you are using for objects shown in overview. Exactly what you have shown in space is up to you... but I suggest at a minimum having planets, the sun, and gates shown for off grid objects. This allows you to quickly determine what celestial you are already aligned to if you need to warp out in a hurry.. as well as giving you a good idea where other people warp too. For on grid objects, I recommend having a couple different set ups that include only ships, ships and drones, only hostile ships, and something with nearly everything on it for when you are flying anything cloaky.

3. Unless you are operating in WH space, you should have the local chat channel separate from the rest and in a location that allows you to quickly see the list of pilots in local. I personally have the chat box as thin as it will get and stretched from top to bottom of the screen on the left hand side. Local is currently an invaluable intel tool and you should always be aware when pilots enter or exit that list.

4. You can move nearly any part of the UI around where ever you want on screen. Try some different configurations out to find what you like and then try to stick with it. If you are constantly changing the positions of things you will find your self looking in the wrong place for the warp button, or to check your fleet mates HP.

now train stealth bombers and have some fun.