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A serious matter which is going to collapse the game
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Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-02-19 21:03:52 UTC
Sandbox?

I can't see a problem, player buys gtc gets isk as a result, gets potentially more personal sand to use. Seems fine to me.

Plex also means more money in CCP's pocket to potentially re-invest back into the game.

If supply of plex improves to outstrip demand it should in theory drop prices, so more plex injection is surely good atm?

Problem more lies with the importance and greed issues as people now strive to plex for the equivalance of free game time. As such this material importance is effecting peoples values IG and also not helping CCP. But I'll stop there before being accused as a socialist fanboi. Blink

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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#22 - 2012-02-20 12:33:56 UTC
Der ToteMann wrote:
... nonsense snipped ...

I suggest CCP has to change the reimburse policy in this cases unless a total collapse in near future.


Dude... honestly.

First of all, most people who trade in plex trade "ISK >> PLEX >> Gametime" so they don't have to pay real money for a 2nd or 3rd account. It's a minority that don't know how to make isk, or who don't want to wait to buy a shiny toy who trade $$ >> Plex >> ISK

Secondly, if you do trade $$ for Plex and you put in in a ship to move it in space then you are asking for it. Eve is a game where stupidity is mercilessly (and often quickly) punished. If you got your Velator full of plex blown up by someone then ask not what CCP did wrong that allowed that to happen, ask instead what YOU did wrong that it happened. .... because it's absoluetly and completely avoidable.

And yes, EVE is a sandbox but don't cry that CCP is to blame if someone throws sand in your eyes. That's just part of the game. It's how it works and how it's *supposed* to work.

T-
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#23 - 2012-02-20 14:28:30 UTC
nice thread. Can we have more of them?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#24 - 2012-02-20 15:07:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Robert Caldera wrote:
nice thread. Can we have more of them?
I'd like a cherry on the next one please. Cool

Edit: Oh yes the OP. You either buy a plex, or convert a GTC to one. You have your plex and CCP have their money, so at that point the contract is considered complete.

You now have a token you can either buy game time with, or sell for ISK. But what you do with it is down to you and not the responsibility of anyone else.

The only serious matter, is your lack of understanding about the whole process.

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AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#25 - 2012-02-20 16:30:38 UTC
You buy PLEX with real money, nothing more.

After that, you decide what to do with it. Therefore, you have to live with the decision to undock.
Spy 21
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-02-20 17:28:03 UTC
PLEX do not need to be moved to be used.

Once they are in the game in your hangar, they are your in game assets and you can do whatever you wish to them. You can throw them away, use them, sell them or try undocking with them in your hold ... your call.

Undocking with such a highly valued item in your hold is no more 'gambling' than pointing a loaded gun at your head is and pulling the trigger... sure there is a small chance it won't turn out bad (misfire, bad ammo) but that chance is very slim and totally known before taking the action.

If there was no way to use PLEX other than putting them into your hold and undocking them than the OP might have a point.

Spy

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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2012-02-20 21:18:36 UTC
Der ToteMann wrote:
Sorry again, it hurts to see how many people doesnt know even their basic rights and bow deep before the dictatorship of companies. Installing software doesnt imply anything. The question for something to apply is to affect your decision of sighning a contract. In cases of software on CDs you cannot make this decision before buying it. In case of a direct download if it was for free you are right. I think this is also why EVE distribution on CDs is so low, the law section in CCP clearly knows that. But again even if "installing software and using it gives "Implied Consent" of the EULA and TOS" in case of a direct download, the law power of it is only affected by the prime civil law in your country. You will always have the upper hand if you have a solid and trustfull homebank which can also help you.


Your right- in most countries you have the ability to purchase any software either physically or online, and install it on your machine; your overall 'use' of the software is terms to the End User License Agreement and Terms of Service. There's this little shiny box underneath the wall of text that I'm you you just scrolled through that says 'I Agree' or 'I Disagree'.

You obviously pushed 'I Agree', if you actually read the EULA it would state that all intellectual property belongs to Crowd Control Productions, even when you buy PLEX online, it says that 'this is not a physical commodity, and retains no monetary value'; you are paying for game time, which can be terminated at any time by CCP. Flying a box of PLEX in game, and getting blown up; would be a wholesome example of CCP denying your request for additional game time.

You sound strangely similar to the $1000 PLESK to destroy TEST guy.
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#28 - 2012-02-20 21:31:05 UTC
It's already been pointed out why the OP is wrong, he's just waiting for the wambulance to arrive now to carry him and his sense of misplaced entitlement to the emergency room.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Kogh Ayon
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-02-20 22:54:08 UTC
0/10

Post this **** in "General discussion" please, and change the tittle as "EVE is dying"
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