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I dont see anybody crying over the battlecruiser/battleship blobbing issue.

Mid-long term, supercaps should be reconfigured to roles other than direct combat to dis-incentivise supercap blobbing and one-dimensional arms races.

Lemme guess, best way to deal with a mouse problem is to turn a bunch of snakes loose in your house?

The answer to imbalanced supercaps is not more supercaps.

You guessed wrong.

And poor analogy (runs of fantasizing about ships bigger than titans)

Adding more super caps will just add variety to your problem. I say your problem, because I have no problem adding more supers to Eve. But I digress.

What we need is anti-supercap t2 capitals. So it would be like releasing mutant elephant eating jaguars with laser beams attached to their heads.

Beats the crap out of releasing a swarm of termites (more sub caps) to do a jaguars hob.

No, what we need is balance across the ship classes as a whole, not a "bring capitals or don't bother showing up" attitude.

Pre-Dominion we more or less had that, because supercaps were generally not suitable for front line direct combat roles, so there was a place in the game for combined operations where subcaps and regular caps to carry out particular important roles alongside each other. Carriers killed BSs, Dreads killed carriers, and BSs killed dreads. The only fly in the ointment was the AoE doomsday marginalising any subcap which didn't have 70,000 ehp. Post Dominion, the idea of combined ops became more marginalised because the solution to all available problems became 'throw all your supercaps at it", leading to a one-dimensional arms race to acquire more of them than your opponents. That's where we are today.

Take away the direct combat abilities of supercaps, get them off the front lines and into supporting roles, and you'll see a much healthier game.

based off of first reply

newer alliance or new players are put at a disadvantage and it becomes a war of the haves and the have nots.

I would rather be please by limiting the number of ships allowed in a system.
Titian not produce an Anti Titan attraction field. Prevents more than 1 titan from being on the field at any one time, or on the same grid or they may both blow up.

This way 1 side as an advantage and but not an overwhelming advantage as 30 titans.
Limiting Super carriers to 3 solar system.

But I like the idea of a Capital tackling ships or a tackling module for super caps.

The traditional solution is to let cats loose in your house.

MOAR supercaps, and more caps that are bonused to deal with supercaps.

GUYS THEY BROUGHT A BIGGER FLEET THAN US, DAMN BLOBBERS

Expanding the number of capitals in the game isn't inherently a bad idea, like many are suggesting. However, it's not a magical solution like you're suggesting. EvE works well because it maintains a Rochambeau atmosphere. When you ship up to a bigger ship, you gain many advantages, but you also gain many disadvantages. This forced fleets to operate in diverse fleets.

BC fleets die to BS fleets which die to cruiser fleets which die to BC fleets...
Subcap fleets die to carriers which die to dreads which die to subcap fleets.

With the change to supercaps in dominion, dreads were replaced with supercaps, hence:

Capitals die to supercaps which SHOULD die to subcaps which die to capitals.

However, Supercaps just don't have that vulnerability... They effectively kill both capitals and subcapitals, making them only vulnerable to bigger supercaps... Your suggestion of adding a capital ship to neutralize supercaps seems incredibly uninformed, as supercapitals are designed to obliterate capitals, a role that they are exceptionally good at.

The problem with supercaps is compounded by their huge EHP and enormous number of utility highs on Supercarriers. Essentially, they scale extremely well, such that they are impossible to alpha and their turtle tank becomes extremely overwhelming when in numbers.

There are two big problems with supercaps at the moment:
1.) The turret formula doesn't scale well to the capital level. Essentially, there is no damage modifier when shooting a small target with really big guns, so glancing blows from a titan alpha smaller ships.

2.) Capital RR scales endlessly. With their base EHP alpha'ing capitals is unrealistic without DD's, and their officer-level resists allow them to turtle tank large fleets. Removing the RR bonus on Supercarriers would force them to hurdle, making them much more vulnerable to separation from the fleet.

I think introducing a new capital ship weapon mechanics (and probably skills too) so that ALL capital weapons don't work well against moving sub-BS targets is in order. This would include fighters, so they don't hit BC's and smaller very well. I would change the role of a sieged dread to actually be an anti-BS platform when sieged, but pisspoor against subcaps otherwise. Siege dreads should still have poor and very poor performance against BC's and cruisers, respectively. This would leave carriers with its wide array of drones as an ideal anti-subcap platform, and the dread a decent anti-BS/poor-man structure shooting platform. Is this ideal? I don't know, but I'll tell you what I do know:

With AoE DD's, you didn't need 50 Titans to wipe out a subcap fleet. And before the dominion supercap changes, 400 dreads was considered a signficant military assets, as opposed to the signficant liablity they have become.