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Hornet EC-300 Drones
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Balcanis
Addicted to Shljivovica
Addicted to Shljivovica Alliance
#1 - 2012-02-17 14:53:46 UTC
What do you think would be the best way to use pack of 5 EC-300 drones when you get jumped by a gang of few people - focused fire or not?

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-02-17 15:33:30 UTC
When caught at a gate camp:-

a) Approach Gate
b) Warp Away
c) Fight
d) Die

Do whatever helps you do whichever one you choose to do... simple

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JVLP
Dark Nexxus
#3 - 2012-02-17 15:37:33 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
When caught at a gate camp:-

a) Approach Gate
b) Warp Away
c) Fight
d) Die

Do whatever helps you do whichever one you choose to do... simple



e) Plead for your survival in local.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#4 - 2012-02-17 16:30:15 UTC
First off, i don't think that you'll be able to jump through the gate if you use drones on people, it should give you aggression. I haven't tested it, but I think it will.

Second, jam the tacklers (or the DPSers if you're trying to stand and fight). If you're trying to run, then you want to jam the people who are pointing you.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-02-17 16:48:13 UTC
mxzf wrote:
First off, i don't think that you'll be able to jump through the gate if you use drones on people, it should give you aggression. I haven't tested it, but I think it will.


I have - way back in the day when I was more foolish and ignorant than I am now (I'm still foolish and ignorant, but in new and interesting ways) so I can confirm that if you use ECM drones on people, you do gain aggro and cannot jump back through the gate.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2012-02-17 17:03:21 UTC
Cyniac wrote:
mxzf wrote:
First off, i don't think that you'll be able to jump through the gate if you use drones on people, it should give you aggression. I haven't tested it, but I think it will.


I have - way back in the day when I was more foolish and ignorant than I am now (I'm still foolish and ignorant, but in new and interesting ways) so I can confirm that if you use ECM drones on people, you do gain aggro and cannot jump back through the gate.


Thanks, now I don't have to test it myself, lol Big smile
Balcanis
Addicted to Shljivovica
Addicted to Shljivovica Alliance
#7 - 2012-02-17 18:26:25 UTC
Lol

Guys, I never said anything about jumping the gate, and I certainly have no intent of dying. I just had a simple question if it's better tactic to use the EC drones with focused fire or no.

When there is only one tackler, it's obvious that it doesn't really matter, but what about when there are more than one tackler?

Thanks

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#8 - 2012-02-17 18:29:08 UTC
Well, if there are multiple tacklers and you're only jamming one of them, then you're not getting away ever. So you clearly will want to distribute them between tacklers (preferably relative to the tackler's sensor strength).
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
#9 - 2012-02-17 19:15:07 UTC
Pick the weakest target and engage him while you send your entire pack of drones after your biggest threat... Take too much work to split a flight of drones anyway...
Jodie Amille
EVE Corporation 690846971
#10 - 2012-02-17 19:15:37 UTC
Unless you get ridiculously lucky I don't think it will matter
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-17 19:33:48 UTC
Balcanis wrote:
What do you think would be the best way to use pack of 5 EC-300 drones when you get jumped by a gang of few people - focused fire or not?



Keep your drones hot in the bay and don't hit an elephant, aproach the gate and jump. OC before you just smack them stupidity before jumping Lol

If they're 2 you can always play the game and fight back, sometimes you have great fun but this is eve, expect half dozen jumping because they want to be in the km. Eve it's about skill, not farming km's right?
mecubed
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-02-17 23:00:06 UTC
Haul back to gate, let as many of them agress as possible and jump through..You would be surprised how many people fall for it.
mecubed
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-17 23:01:01 UTC
About the drones, dont expect them to save from from a group of people, if there is 1 or 2, then maybe.. If your just pointed by 1 person use them and warp out.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#14 - 2012-02-18 02:00:36 UTC
OP, your question lacks details as to your situation and what your objective is. This makes it difficult to respond. If you get jumped on a gate, your best course of action is almost always to burn back to gate (AND DON'T LAUNCH YOUR DRONES!). If you are unsure of how best to do this, just ask.

Once you get back to gate, hopefully, you have taken aggro from people so they can't jump through with you. Jump back through, align to a celestial, and warp. If someone points you on this side of the gate before you can warp, stay aligned and burn. Launch your ECM drones and put them on any tackler that you can't pull range from. Also shoot at tacklers trying to keep you pointed. Warp away and bounce the celestial.

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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-02-18 14:36:46 UTC
Balcanis wrote:
Lol

Guys, I never said anything about jumping the gate, and I certainly have no intent of dying. I just had a simple question if it's better tactic to use the EC drones with focused fire or no.

When there is only one tackler, it's obvious that it doesn't really matter, but what about when there are more than one tackler?

Thanks


More then one tackler? You're not getting away so put them on top dpser and fight like a man!
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#16 - 2012-02-19 06:30:29 UTC
Balcanis wrote:
Lol

Guys, I never said anything about jumping the gate, and I certainly have no intent of dying. I just had a simple question if it's better tactic to use the EC drones with focused fire or no.

When there is only one tackler, it's obvious that it doesn't really matter, but what about when there are more than one tackler?

Thanks


This only applies to the stand and fight aproach:

Divide your drones when you can.

Why?

Higher average ecm being done.

Each drone after the first ECM has a slightly less chance then the one before it since it may get a jam during the time another drone has the jam going. That is lost interupt.





If you are trying to run use ecm on the guys pointing you which I"m sure you already know how to do.
Make sure to focus on the guys with scramblers if your trying to kick on a mwd.

If you have a lot more points then webbers you might want to jam the webbers and get range from a few guys before switching to the jammers who can keep up with your speed.
Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
#17 - 2012-02-19 14:47:42 UTC
mecubed wrote:
About the drones, dont expect them to save from from a group of people *snip*


This. I just had a 5 minute fight against an ubertanked maller and I didn't get even a single jam against him with my ec-300's. So you'd have to be super lucky to land jams simultaneously on 2 tacklers, should you choose to separate your drones on 2 different targets
Banechild
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#18 - 2012-02-19 15:41:22 UTC
5x light ecm drones equal one unbonused multispectral ecm modules meaning you can jam one target and that's it.

while sometimes feasible with ships like ishkur on 2 on 1 fights, your chances are slim if you get caught by more then one tackler and you have to leave your drones behind anyway.
Usually it's better to have dual prop and run for your life then trying to rely on ECM drones which in general miss 1/2 half the attempts (though you can spam the attack until they do jam the target).
Liam Mirren
#19 - 2012-02-19 15:45:51 UTC
Banechild wrote:
5x light ecm drones equal one unbonused multispectral


You might want to recheck your numbers.

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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#20 - 2012-02-19 17:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
Banechild wrote:
5x light ecm drones equal one unbonused multispectral ecm modules meaning you can jam one target and that's it.

while sometimes feasible with ships like ishkur on 2 on 1 fights, your chances are slim if you get caught by more then one tackler and you have to leave your drones behind anyway.
Usually it's better to have dual prop and run for your life then trying to rely on ECM drones which in general miss 1/2 half the attempts (though you can spam the attack until they do jam the target).



5 light ecm get 5 jam streangth but need 5 different targets in order to have them opperate at a full 5 since they reduce eachother total chance as they stack due to over lap.

One ecm multispectral T2 gets 3 jam streangth.

In short your statement is mostly false. I say mostly since if your target has exactly 5 sensor streangth and you are using all drones on same target they do have the exact same jam chance as a T2 Multispectral (60%).
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