Science & Industry

Good day!

I'm a new player who played the trial back in October, and only formally subscribed 22 hours ago. I was hoping to find updated resources related to Planetary interaction, as most of the places I've visited seem to need cleanup or mention that they're not updated resources.

As it stands, I'm currently following http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Planetary_Interaction as a general guide to try and learn the basics of PI (videos are helpful) while I hone my ship flying skills back to basic competency. I am looking for other guides, but my google-fu isn't that strong in this regard, and searching on the forums has frustrated me because PI isn't an easily searchable term.

Can anyone offer up updated guides for me to read, or at least outline the changes between the PI guide from E-UNI and the present incarnation of PI. In addition, as a newcomer with only the starter Gallente ships, I have to ask, what ships are supposed to be used for industrial endeavors like PLanetary Interaction as opposed to Mission running?

Thank you for your time. :)

http://picommodityrelations.comyr.com/pi.html

Here's a very helpful guide, it shows what materials are needed when you want to create higher end commodities.

Thanks for the assistance folks.

I'm still looking for more information, and I'm thinking of testing PI out on a planet near the Gallente Tutorial Missions just to practice. Does that seem like a good idea, or should I look for some other place? Like maybe a planet with more activity?

Yeah, you can right click and set it to show other people networks but you have to do it each time you want to see them. It's not a toggle you can just turn on.


And YES - go into scan mode - pick the material with the most stuff - and move the slider until the whole planet is white - otherwise it's really hard to see other peoples control centers. Once you've located another guys CC you can click on it to see the stuff he's got - then change through the different materials to see what he's likely to be working with - or just check the stuff you want to do to see if there's a conflict there.



Your Extractors are expendable. Plan on decomissioning them and setting up new ones a lot. Look in your Wallets Journal to see how much you've been charged - it's not that much.


Now - new people can go out and **** around with PI if they want to - but - there are some skills and expenses that really start to add up and make it something that is really better done by someone with some money behind them.

a) The costs are minor for a veteran player but not a new person.
b) The training time is a real consideration for someone who is trying to build up their cash - as you don't make lots of money right away - but the costs come up front.. So finding some other way of funding your PI investment first - is a good idea. Starting with a low cash level and trying to do anything with PI isn't going to be very productive.


An example here is the Control Center. Well ... all your Power Grid and CPU are dependent on what level your Control Center is set at. The design of your colony is dependent on how much PG/CPU you've got. Thus - you really want to have a Fully Functional Control Center when you start - other wise you may end up having to redesign things once you get one fully functional. Well - to even get one to that level requres that you've trained the skill to Level V - which takes a good bit of time. Once yo've got that done, when you go to raise the level of a Control Tower up from lowest to maxium - it costs you like 7 milion ISK or so. Now that's not that much for a veteran player - but if you're brand new it is.

Advanced Planetology is like a 7 million ISK skill.

Getting the skill to Level V for the number of Planets you can support takes some time too.

Then there's all the taxes you have to pay - which if you have to import something - means you already exported from somewhere and will have to export your final product again - so they tax you quite a bit now AND you have to pay those taxes before you even bring your stuff to market - much less get paid for it.

One thing I did which helped me get started in PI - was to go to the test server - where things don't cost much and practice there. You could go experiment with that and learn about PI while you were developing some skills on the live server that would bring you some up front money. By the time 7 million ISK isn't a big deal to you - you'd have the experience gained from fooling around on the test server to do a better job live. Just be prepared to lose everything you bulit on the test server every time they do a major update - but then you're there to practice anyway so - what the hell ...

The real downside to using the test server ... at least the last time I used it - was dealing with the constant builds - requiring you to do an update. Make sure you don't foul up your live installation - use another installation to apply the test server files to.


If all that's to much trouble for you - just do something else until you've got a decent chunk of money (i.e. 7 million ISK isn't a big deal) and then come try PI.






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Hi Toshiro. Thanks for the heads-up. I've currently got 11.5 million ISK, so while I can do what you're saying, Planetary Interaction doesn't seem like it's going to be economically viable for me.

I have some of the skills trained up, actually, but Advanced Planetology is expensive.

At the moment, I'm doing the Blood Stained Stars EVE mission chain. which is getting me some money, but little by little. I'm hoping to augment that by salvaging wrecks from missions and selling off the stuff I get from salvage, though I'm still learning how that works, exactly.

In the meantime, I'll keep chipping away at the skills necessary for money making (such as the Negotiation Social Skill that increases Mission payouts), as well as the core competencies required to have a durable and stronger ship, skillwise.

If you have any more information I can use, I'd be glad to learn from everyone reading this thread. :D

Do not even bother with anything besides the POS fuels: Robotics, Mechanical Parts, Enriched Uranium, and Coolant....and Oxygen if you like.

If you must go so far as P4, the Self-Harmonizing Power Cores are about it. They are used in making Corp Hangers and such for POS's.

I would personally say Planetary Interaction is not a good choice for a new pilot since the horrendous high sec PI taxes were introduced. Maybe if you could find a way to set up PI in low sec it might be financially viable but again that is going to be tricky for new pilot. If you insist on going ahead with setting up PI planets then Krixtal's advice is sound.

I'm not the kind of pilot who tells others to do something else to protect my business but I would say 'missions & salvaging' or even 'mining' might be better choices for you as starter professions. But it's up to you.

Do you guys see Nanites taking off in the future? I have a low-sec (0.4) nanite operation going that takes up 4 planets, but I'm not seeing much profitability. The market trend shows it increasing, but I don't know how useful nanite paste actually is. Should I just swap it all out for POS fuel? Is it worth more per unit, or is it more profitable because there are guaranteed buyers?

Yuppers on this. I just did not want to bring up the Tax issue as that always brings the High Sec QQ commenters.........


BTW who are the Idiots dumping Fuel blocks for 13,000 per in Rens ??