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Overview Troubles

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Marshall McGreedy
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-17 03:28:41 UTC
/Rant

What's with the stupid ... now present in the overview? It's messing with my angular velocity column and I can't get it to show only 4 decimal places. It's 3 or 5 now. The velocity column also seems screwy now.

While I'm at it, my pod doesn't land close enough to gates to auto jump.

/Rant

Wreckar
Space Unicorn Protection Agency
#2 - 2012-02-17 04:01:53 UTC
I guess it's to make sure you know that the column that you'd adjusted to display relevant information has in fact actually cut off some of that information.

Just like we get a button on neocom to tell us that the scan/probe interface that I've just hit my shortcut to open is now in fact open and starting us in the face.

All part of the new overview improvements featuring horrendous hostile target blinking, small target status icons now flush up against the column lines, resizing columns no longer giving you indicating lines, mouseover freezing breaking dual monitor setups, and of course sacrificing more screen real estate to display a couple of hundred ...

You can go and get fukd ccp. Stick your new font , neocom and overview where the sun dont shine.

Yummy Tears
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-02-17 06:13:45 UTC
New Overview sucks.
Jita Alt666
#4 - 2012-02-17 08:27:34 UTC
Waiting for the 3 updates over the next 3 days to sort this out?
BrutalButUnfair
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
#5 - 2012-02-17 09:13:03 UTC
They also state it's much faster in the blog. For me it's sooooo much slower that even outside apps seem to 'hang'.

Also indeed the overview is bugged once more. I have to change and save them all again. And prob again after the next patch and so on.
Marshall McGreedy
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-18 01:05:37 UTC
I just wanted to revisit and say Thank You to CCP for fixing the mess.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#7 - 2012-02-18 05:14:13 UTC
BrutalButUnfair wrote:
They also state it's much faster in the blog.


I think they are applying the Hilmar reality distortion field - you know, the same one they used when Incarna was the "most successful version ever!!!!1oneone".
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2012-02-19 12:42:53 UTC
Marshall McGreedy wrote:
/Rant

What's with the stupid ... now present in the overview? It's messing with my angular velocity column and I can't get it to show only 4 decimal places. It's 3 or 5 now. The velocity column also seems screwy now.

While I'm at it, my pod doesn't land close enough to gates to auto jump.

/Rant
Based on feedback then we are removing the ellipsis.

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Ngaio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-02-19 14:08:57 UTC
There are other issues I noticed. Quite often, even if something is selected, and action toolbar shows proper actions, they don't work - I mean literally, clicking on buttons doesn't do anything. I have to re-select same object and then it works.
It was working fine before, "why fix it, if it ain't broken?" - again.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2012-02-19 14:38:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Ngaio wrote:
There are other issues I noticed. Quite often, even if something is selected, and action toolbar shows proper actions, they don't work - I mean literally, clicking on buttons doesn't do anything. I have to re-select same object and then it works.
It was working fine before, "why fix it, if it ain't broken?" - again.


YES. This.

Many times I have to click off an object then reselect it in the Overview. Especially drones I'm trying to target.

And don't get me started on the 'Sticky cargohold" issue that has cropped up recently. Too hard to describe, but you know what it is if you have experienced it.

When they develop these changes, does anyone at CCP actually bother playing the game ???

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#11 - 2012-02-19 15:26:12 UTC
Also hope they fix the update when pilots eject/board ships bc it's really stupid that you can't see if a ship is empty on the overview.

/c

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#12 - 2012-02-19 16:28:42 UTC
The refresh times are much worse now (this week) than they were in the past. Not sure if it an overall problem with the client or not, but I notice that firing weapons seems to hang, ordering drones seems to hang, and overview update speed is much worse to where is takes several second for wrecks to appear. It is almost like the CTRL key command is misfiring or stuck somehow.

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#13 - 2012-02-19 18:57:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
I have a serious pet peeve with the overview filtering.

I'll explain this in detail soon, but this has been going on for a long time now, ever since i've started using the overview states to filter out friendles from war targets, etc.


The issue is simple :

In order to see a CORP MATE to filter out ONLY FOR CORP MATES you can NOT DO IT.


  • You need to add has "Low" OR "Bad" security standings, so you see any corpmates with low sec standings
  • You need to add NO STANDING filter, so you see corpmates you don't have set any standings.
  • As of the last patch you know also need to add "HAS A BOUNTY", so you HAVE TO SEE people with bounties.

  • Basically, it's IMPOSSIBLE TO say "I want to filter for "Pilot is in your corp". and ONLY see corpmates. You have to see, PIRATE, NEUTRALS, and BOUNTIES.

    The reason is simple, the Overview Filter states works on INTERSECTION LOGIC rather than simply filtering for checks

    You will ONLY SEE pilots that intersect along ALL OPTIONS seen. Which makes NO SENSE for an overview filter. Can we please finally get this fixed now that the overview is being overhauled??!?!

    I'm making a video to demonstrate this explicitly.

    Where I am.

    Bloodpetal
    Tir Capital Management Group
    #14 - 2012-02-19 19:32:55 UTC

    Video demonstrating how filtering is crazy.

    ON top of it all, it bugs out when I change the pilots standings in the middle of changing overview settings.

    http://youtu.be/c1xegAGYV8U

    Where I am.

    Xercodo
    Cruor Angelicus
    #15 - 2012-02-19 19:53:06 UTC
    MadMuppet wrote:
    The refresh times are much worse now (this week) than they were in the past. Not sure if it an overall problem with the client or not, but I notice that firing weapons seems to hang, ordering drones seems to hang, and overview update speed is much worse to where is takes several second for wrecks to appear. It is almost like the CTRL key command is misfiring or stuck somehow.


    The functionality of the CTRL key was added to overview mouse-over. So quit molesting your overview? lol

    I have no idea about the gun and drone lag tho...

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    Rhastafan
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #16 - 2012-02-19 20:29:27 UTC
    Jukebox if fubar for playlists made before the patch. It went from having the songs listed between the lines with the time overlapping the song number. I made a new plalist of 1 song and it seemed to diplay right, but now after the latest update it is fubar juts like th eold one.

    P.S. if you can't make a diplay the propely displays things, I am not going to bother spellchecking when I post :P
    CCP Explorer
    C C P
    C C P Alliance
    #17 - 2012-02-20 20:42:15 UTC
    Chribba wrote:
    Also hope they fix the update when pilots eject/board ships bc it's really stupid that you can't see if a ship is empty on the overview.
    Was fixed internally today and is pending deployment.

    Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer