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Official Protest - Mittani should be removed from CSM - *** UPDATED RESPONSE POSTED ***

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#941 - 2012-02-17 00:32:15 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month


It is crucial for an organization the size of the goons to have credibility when making such claims!

I would be glad to provide an independent audit of that number for only a 5% commission. I'll get started as soon as I see the deposit in my wallet......

Issler
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#942 - 2012-02-17 01:32:19 UTC
Akelorian wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month


And in January their loss's amassed to just over 711,000,000,000.00 isk, so obviously not all the isk is going to mittens pocket :)


Tax rate is 15%.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#943 - 2012-02-17 02:35:07 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
It is crucial for an organization the size of the goons to have credibility when making such claims!

I would be glad to provide an independent audit

SPAI, someone get that spai.

Our auditor is more than capable of counting to even .01 isk.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#944 - 2012-02-17 02:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Also, the tech moon issue could be viewed as a way of preventing anyone else from profiting from them in the future and yet the Goons have capatilised on their position of having a significant portion of them for a long time. So nerf them, keep the assests associated with their gain prior, still have large number of them still better represented than others anyhow.

So we are abusing it if it's unnerfed and abusing it if it's nerfed. This right here makes total sense.

If you could wait a quick sec, we gotta go make a bunch of turret titans (like more than everyone else).

Ok, we've arrived. Now we support nerfing tracking not because goons are being shot at by titan guns but because we've already shot titan guns!

How? Because we already blew up people and POSes before the nerf and after the nerf people won't be able to do that. SO thus after we start abusing titan tracking, we'd be trying to cement our abuse of it by getting it nerfed.

Thus, to avoid this obvious abomination, force us to keep using the overpowered spacecoffins. Yeah that'll show us! Continue to repeat to yourself that you won't be tricked by goons as a thousand X-large shells with "The Mittani sends his regards" written on them heads towards your pod.


P.S. Also, wait to see trillions of isk spent on reimbursements to pay for our Titan fleets. That is money from the tech moons that shouldn't be nerfed because that would help us. Money that we don't have because the Mittani spent it all on Brutixes.

P.S. Ragnarok best titan.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
doombreed52
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#945 - 2012-02-17 03:02:39 UTC
to the op you've given me something to laugh at late at night oh and go **** yourself stop crying.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#946 - 2012-02-17 03:31:09 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month


It is crucial for an organization the size of the goons to have credibility when making such claims!

I would be glad to provide an independent audit of that number for only a 5% commission. I'll get started as soon as I see the deposit in my wallet......

Issler

we actually have an auditor who publishes everything we spent money on each month or two in exacting detail

then yells at us for managing to spend most of that 617b
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#947 - 2012-02-17 03:41:45 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
we actually have an auditor who publishes everything we spent money on each month or two in exacting detail

then yells at us for managing to spend most of that 617b

Yeah, we need to save because The Mittani hates us making so much from tech and is going to get it nerfed.

Sigh. Back to mining...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#948 - 2012-02-17 03:46:32 UTC
we are the best managed alliance in eve by far

and that is ******* terrifying when you see how the sausages are made
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#949 - 2012-02-17 04:03:39 UTC
Back in my day there was none of this "get blown up, get reimbursed, get new ship" nonsense. We had to mine uphill both ways...

I mean mine our own minerals and build the damn hull yourself. Everyone had their mining and industry alts.

Nowadays, you're all so soft, what with mail order titans (fittings included) you just need to farm the billions of isk needed.

Back in my day, CONCORD wasn't just printing money. We had a TRITANIUM standard, none of this internet spaceship fiat currency printed by some police empire of the whole damn universe.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#950 - 2012-02-17 07:58:36 UTC
ron paul 2012
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#951 - 2012-02-17 09:47:09 UTC
Akelorian wrote:
Retar Aveymone wrote:
Goonswarm makes an estimated 617,543,259,988.48 isk per month


And in January their loss's amassed to just over 711,000,000,000.00 isk, so obviously not all the isk is going to mittens pocket :)


you look at eve-kill losses as if we reimburse every dumb ratting tengu or whatever

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TYRON Jansing
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#952 - 2012-02-17 10:23:58 UTC
I would officially like to stage a protest.

I am protesting this protest against The Mittani.

The OP seems to think that playing in a sand box not the same way half the population does is wrong. If I can't get my way and have all high sec welfare queens removed from the game, then you can't get The Mittani removed from any aspect of the game he wishes to do. Therefore your protest and website are nothing but a waste of time.

Now for my stylish signs.

"Death to high sec welfare queen!"
"Down with the isk faucet that is high sec incusions"
"Death to all agents having the same quality"

Finally the most important sign

"Potatoes!"

I thank you for your time, I hope you support my protest of a protest.
Cosmic Fart
Doomheim
#953 - 2012-02-29 20:28:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Cosmic Fart
The Mittani wrote:
Just Another Toon wrote:

But you are happy to manipulate the game , such as attacking ice miners for your own gains.. Your words will not make any difference to peoples opinion of you.


I ran for CSM on a platform of explicitly being a manipulative bastard, because it takes someone like me to actually bring CCP around to reason.

So far, so good!



You didn't bring anything around. You sat with your goon peons and made fun of the people who really made the difference!

The ones who started unsubbing are the ones who got the attention of CCP, not you and your peons too weak to think for themselves.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#954 - 2012-02-29 21:03:06 UTC
Cosmic Fart wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
Just Another Toon wrote:

But you are happy to manipulate the game , such as attacking ice miners for your own gains.. Your words will not make any difference to peoples opinion of you.


I ran for CSM on a platform of explicitly being a manipulative bastard, because it takes someone like me to actually bring CCP around to reason.

So far, so good!



You didn't bring anything around. You sat with your goon peons and made fun of the people who really made the difference!

The ones who started unsubbing are the ones who got the attention of CCP, not you and your peons too weak to think for themselves.


Noted Eve opinion maker Cosmic Fart has spoken.

Also, thanks again, Mittens, for saving Eve.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#955 - 2012-02-29 22:35:26 UTC
Scamming performs a very important social role in Eve.

It balances the inequality created when a player has more isk than sense. If you don't have the wits to keep your isk, then you deserve to have it scammed out of you.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#956 - 2012-03-01 02:23:53 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:

Being an A$$hole is not grounds for removal from office, just ask any elected official anywhere at anytime. If you do not like him then ether find a real crime that is against the rules and provide evidence or wait till his term expires and vote him out next term.

Wrong, all elected officials are always under the spotlight and any little infraction is scrutinized with a microscope. If found guilty, they are immediately kicked out of office, otherwise known as Impeachment. Of course this usually applies to democracy type governments. In other types of governments the offending official would be quickly removed from office via more permanent methods such as public execution or private assassination.


I agree with the OP that there needs to be reform done by CCP regarding the CSM.

I believe elected CSM members should only be allowed to serve 2 consecutive years on the board, after which they must wait another 2 years before running again. If a player is elected and serves 1 year and doesn't get re-elected the 2nd year, they can again run for election in the 3rd year.

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Alara IonStorm
#957 - 2012-03-01 13:48:52 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

Wrong, all elected officials are always under the spotlight and any little infraction is scrutinized with a microscope. If found guilty, they are immediately kicked out of office,

That is so incredibly rare and is only relevant to if a law is broken. Even Bill Clinton was not going to be kicked out for a sex scandal but perjury. So what crime has the Mittani committed that is 100% without a shadow of a doubt proven that is against the rules.

Even then have you heard Candidates speak in RL scapegoating minorities, homosexuals, women, the poor and so on. Their are a lot of scary people in office that do not get impeached so being kind of a **** sometimes is definitely not enough.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#958 - 2012-03-02 02:39:45 UTC
Cosmic Fart wrote:



You didn't bring anything around. You sat with your goon peons and made fun of the people who really made the difference!

The ones who started unsubbing are the ones who got the attention of CCP, not you and your peons too weak to think for themselves.


angry npc alt, oh no

whatever will i dooooo

~hi~
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#959 - 2012-03-02 02:58:07 UTC
The Mittani promised me that we'd have more carrier ops and that we should insure our ships because we were probably going to lose them.

My insurance just ran out and my carrier is still alive.Cry
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#960 - 2012-03-02 03:58:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
The Mittani wrote:
angry npc alt, oh no

whatever will i dooooo

Post on the EVE-O forums more~~
Davion Falcon wrote:
Scamming performs a very important social role in Eve.

It balances the inequality created when a player has more isk than sense. If you don't have the wits to keep your isk, then you deserve to have it scammed out of you.

Maintaining a smooth isk:sense ratio across the population of New Eden. Saving the environment, one double your isk at a time.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?