EVE General Discussion

Let me begin by saying that, as someone who flies frigates almost exclusively, I am not in favor of T3 frigates.

First, there is already a wealth of frigates which can be fit to excel in a number of highly specialized roles. T1s can be fit as throwaway DPS, decoys, boosters, pursuit, tackle, painters, dampers, jammers, and then there are specialized EAFs, Assault Ships, Covert Ops, Stealth Bombers, Interceptors.

What role(s) are you looking for a T3 to fill that existing ships don't already?

Second, assuming for the time being that T3 frigates would use subsystems, frigate models are small. I am having a hard time visualizing a frigate-sized ship with 5 sets of interchangeable, modular hull components that does not look like an absolute mess.

How would you reconcile the T3 frigate visual design with the existing T3 Strat Cruiser designs? Would you take T3 design (either in terms of visuals, game mechanics, or both) in a different direction when it comes to frigates?

For those who back the idea of T3 frigates, I'm interested in hearing your reasoning on the topic. Perhaps they are a good idea and I simply have not seen the light.

Also, posting this in General Discussion like a schmuck so I can get more responses.

T3 = T2 with 3 rigs.

Because the game needs yet another lolwtfpwnmobile ship to become the Flavor of the Month.

There should be code in the system where for one calendar day only T1 fit noob ships can be flown. 1337 becomes "fail"... :)

Well, if you look at the cruiser class, when T3s were introduced there already existed a lot of very specialized cruisers. The T3s haven't replaced any of these. A Rapier still have longer webrange than a webbing Loki.

The T3s brings two things to the table:

One, they bring configuration flexibility of course, the ability to swap out subsystems and reconfigure the ships for a diffrent role. What limits this flexibility is rigs - so it is a limited form of flexibility when it boils down to practical use.

Two - and much more importantly - T3s can be configured to be good at several things simultaneously. A webbing loki will have a shorter webrange than a Rapier sure, but it can tank and dish out damage while doing so on a scale never possible with a Rapier.

This is where the T3s shine. Thus, T3 frigates will not replace existing specialized T2 frigs, but they will take different T2 frigate capabilities, scale them down a bit sacrificing some speciality, but combine them into a more awesome package.

T3 cruisers also pick up the warfare link capabilities from commandships, so this could indicate that a T3 frigate sub could be a interdictor capability picked up from the destroyer class.

Frigates and battleships should have T3 variants, with the T3 ship being capable of doing everything well, but nothing as perfectly as the specialty (T2) ship. I would be fine with that, helps solo gameplay

What role did T3 cruisers fill?

lol, really?

Edit: and just to be constructive, one of the major things that i see as a possible awesomeness with t3 frigs is the versitlity that strategic cruisers provide but as something you would fight in more. Frig hulls have a fair amount of versitility, but AF hulls and especially faction hulls have more or less go to fits. You know what kind of fight your getting yourself into before you start.

Now don't get me wrong, a lot of pilots come up with interesting, successful fits to mix things up and keep opponents on their toes. However, with a t3 frig hull this aspect can get vastly opened up considering you can have so many types of fits from the same hull.

Is it necessary to have t3's? of course not. However the ability to change on the fly in a fast, small, powerful boat is something that i personally think wouldn't be a bad option to have around

I would love a T3 Travel/scout frigate.

T3 subsystems focusing on travel. Real nano, as in, close to a km a sec without weapon systems and very fast warp speeds.

I want T3 frigs to be in game, because i believe that CCP can figure out those roles you were talking about.

I also have a natural talent for running away from BC gangs, which are the bulk of what I happen to find out there.

Another curious point, can someone who popped me elect not to generate a KM?