EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi!

I'm about to start Incursion running, but got laughed when I tried to join one of the shield fleets with my normal Apocalypse. (My Main is Amarr and I love lazers :) )

So I decided to field a "shiny" ship like all the others. But I don't have the money for a Nightmare, so I'm looking for a

- Navy Apoc
or a
- Navy Armageddon


Which ship would you choose....Which ship would u like to have in your fleet?

Additional to this I currently fit the very very expensive Meta4 Pulse Laser, cause I can't use T2 yet. Is it better to switch to faction lasers?

Thanks for all your answers o/

While that link is great your are wrong, Amarr ships can be shield tanked for incursions, it clears out all those Lows for Damage Mods which means they can chunk out DPS by the bucket load.

Get T2 Pulse, and a good fit, and you should get into fleets, then save up for a Nightmare, then get into fleets even easier.

Job Done

Yeah I agree there, but I see a lot of Navy Geddons, so if you have good skills go for that while you train NM otherwise I have another suggestion;
Although it might seem like a long train, if you want to get into Incursions quickly and be effective, train for a Scimi/Basi, they are cheap (relatively) and ALWAYS needed, I often bring my PVP basi down when war-decs are off, just take off the ECCM and im good to go.

(Logi V will get you into fleets much faster, and is basically a must for the Scimitar, its a drag, but worth it)

And Logis have the most fun in incursions anyways, the rest is just shooting by numbers.

There are also armor gangs for incursions, maybe you should try to get into those.
Your main issue for incursions (at least vanguards) will not be raw dps, but getting that eft-dps applied. Those little buggers are fast as hell, so the fleet should have a large amount of webbing at its disposal. Three targeting computers + tracking scripts are often not enough to hit a non-webbed target decently.
As a battleship, you normally don't web (ususually the T3 cruisers do that job), but you should talk about that with the FC and fit your ship accordingly.
Amarr battleships have good capacitors, so they will often ask you to fit an energy transmitter to support your logis (thats why geddon > apoc...geddon has the spare utility highslot).

edit:
To answer your question about Navy Apoc or Navy Geddon: both are viable. Navy Geddon has the above mentioned advantage of the utility slot + bigger dronebay. Navy Apoc is better for solo running level 4s, so if you plan to use your ship for other things besides incursions, maybe the Navy Apoc would be a little bit more useful. (and yes, an incursion fitted Navy Apoc -replace the plate with an armor repper- will absolutely raep level 4 missions)