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Aspie/Autist

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Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#1 - 2012-02-13 08:04:59 UTC
So... I've noticed a common trend of attacking either Aspies/Autists, or more specifically often, "self-diagnosed aspies". Yes, we know it's the #1 self-diagnosed mental condition right now, because among the many many symptoms listed, it covers everything from being socially awkward, to a different thinking pattern, to the part of just being special, so it basically covers every teens' fantasy explanation for their problems. Yes, we know it has a funny name, if you choose to add an extra S, and respell the ending as "burgers". This is not news. It's also not very original.

I just wanted to ask if people ever considered how many people they might be insulting who are clinically diagnosed? Potentially by multiple specialists? Believe it or not, it wouldn't make it into the DSM if it wasn't for the fact that some people actually do have it. And some of us, might even be the folks backing you up in a fleet engagement, scouting out your next kill, or ensuring those corp ships end up at the POS you need them, when you need them.

People like *cough*Xenuria*cough* obviously have special needs of some sort. But it's a really shoddy excuse to throw around attacks on wide swaths of people. Try to narrow your insults, like insulting pedophiles! (Completely unrelated to the last sentence, I assure you!)

Also, as my "inb4", yes, I'm completely aware how much humiliation I just set myself up for in this thread. So, um... have fun.

Soraya Xel - Council of Planetary Management 1 - soraya@biomassed.net

Pseudo Ucksth
Camellia Void Cartographics
#2 - 2012-02-13 08:11:29 UTC
haha what
George Nada
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-02-13 08:11:31 UTC
Gas Thread, Ban OP
Pseudo Ucksth
Camellia Void Cartographics
#4 - 2012-02-13 08:12:58 UTC
oh god i didn't even look to see what alliance you were in,

kick GENTS
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#5 - 2012-02-13 08:16:37 UTC
You know how many pedophiles there are? Self diagnosed or clinically diagnosed as pedophiles. Wouldnt making fun of them just be the same thing you are trying to stop us from doing?

You must have family member with auspie/autist or something.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#6 - 2012-02-13 08:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Crasniya wrote:
So... I've noticed a common trend of attacking either Aspies/Autists, or more specifically often, "self-diagnosed aspies". Yes, we know it's the #1 self-diagnosed mental condition right now, because among the many many symptoms listed, it covers everything from being socially awkward, to a different thinking pattern, to the part of just being special, so it basically covers every teens' fantasy explanation for their problems. Yes, we know it has a funny name, if you choose to add an extra S, and respell the ending as "burgers". This is not news. It's also not very original.

I just wanted to ask if people ever considered how many people they might be insulting who are clinically diagnosed? Potentially by multiple specialists? Believe it or not, it wouldn't make it into the DSM if it wasn't for the fact that some people actually do have it. And some of us, might even be the folks backing you up in a fleet engagement, scouting out your next kill, or ensuring those corp ships end up at the POS you need them, when you need them.

People like *cough*Xenuria*cough* obviously have special needs of some sort. But it's a really shoddy excuse to throw around attacks on wide swaths of people. Try to narrow your insults, like insulting pedophiles! (Completely unrelated to the last sentence, I assure you!)

Also, as my "inb4", yes, I'm completely aware how much humiliation I just set myself up for in this thread. So, um... have fun.


Aspergers is basically bullshit. It is "high functioning autism". If you had real aspergers, your parents would know before you were walking, and you'd have been diagnosed as a baby. But no. Millions of nerds with no social skills decide that they must have aspergers because they fail at life, and self diagnose, which is entirely BS. Its just as bad as the ADD self diagnosers / misdiagnosers.

The millions of self-diagnosing fools who are rationalizing are a goddamn insult to people who actually have autism. I studied this **** for several years and have an autistic cousin - I know aspergers / autism.

Just so you know, among *psychologists*, most ADD / ADHD / Aspergers diagnoses are wrong. The DSM IV diagnostic criteria are too vague and generalized.

Also, Xenuria doesn't have aspergers. He's just a dimwitted childlover.

Sorry for /rant, touchy subject here.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-13 08:33:08 UTC
Asperger's Syndrome is actually removed from the DSM-V.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Te Tumatauenga
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-02-13 08:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Te Tumatauenga
I think it's very brave of you to take a stand for such a hurt and misunderstood minority. Although not a sufferer, my life has too been touched by Autism. Thank you for taking your time to express your feelings in the matter, and I for one will make an effort to stop using Autism as the butt of jokes. I hope other pilots join me in doing this and make New Eden a welcoming place for people who are a little different.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-13 08:33:39 UTC
Which is to say that it literally does not exist.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-13 08:33:58 UTC
And therefore anyone who claims to suffer from it is just silly.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-13 08:43:59 UTC
i'm self-diagnosed with awesome

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-02-13 09:01:12 UTC
I often come to the eve online forums for some mental health realtalk.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#13 - 2012-02-13 09:20:46 UTC
Next epidsone of EVE online forums RealTalk:

We will discuss how aspergers apperently doesnt exist, so those people will be diagnosed with hallucinations.

As well how it is fun to make fun of people who are different/inferior and we shall search through all DSM to find the pyschology to why that is. Also why it is normal to do so.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

Paint Thinner
The Grubs
#14 - 2012-02-13 10:32:34 UTC
Are these the people who can powerbomb a bulldozer if their friend is caught under it etc?







Friends Electric
PK Knights
#15 - 2012-02-13 12:13:10 UTC
Labels like these will always be used by people who just don't know or care how much it hurts people. These uses in no way relate to the people who identify with those labels, only to those that use them. Ignore them or pity them, there is no point in being offended by them (although sometimes it can be hard not to be).

Also, while someone might be diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome, that doesn't mean he or she is Asperger. It's just one of their qualities, and not even a defining quality in most cases. In other words, treat a diagnosis like that as a part of you but not as the whole of you, when you manage that you'll be one step closer to coping with it.

As for whether Aspergers is a valid DSM-V diagnosis, that's hardly relevant. The label means something to those that identify themselves with it and it means something to those that use it. When someone asks you to refrain from using a term as a derogatory remark it's hardy appropriate to start debating the validity of the term in it's intended use.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-13 12:16:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Friends Electric wrote:

Also, while someone might be diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome, that doesn't mean he or she is Asperger.


I want you to know, right now, that everything else you said in your post is going to be disregarded and this one statement with the emphasis you included is going to become a catchphrase for at least a week.


edit: PS— I AM ASPERGER.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-02-13 12:19:30 UTC
Friends Electric wrote:

As for whether Aspergers is a valid DSM-V diagnosis, that's hardly relevant. The label means something to those that identify themselves with it and it means something to those that use it.

By that logic, the fact that I call myself the Red Power Ranger and identify with it means that Red Power Ranger is now an identity for which I should be able to expect you to recognize and for which you should be shunned and shamed if you choose to ignore it or to poke fun at me for identifying with it. Don't you go calling me a RPR, or any derivative of it, now, or you might offend me on the Internet!

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Friends Electric
PK Knights
#18 - 2012-02-13 12:20:28 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Friends Electric wrote:

Also, while someone might be diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome, that doesn't mean he or she is Asperger.


I want you to know, right now, that everything else you said in your post is going to be disregarded and this one statement with the emphasis you included is going to become a catchphrase for at least a week.


edit: PS— I AM ASPERGER.


You're welcome :)
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-02-13 12:24:12 UTC
And it all worked out in the butte.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-02-13 13:05:06 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
And it all worked out in the butte.

Legally change your name to Red Power Ranger and i will gladly call you that

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

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