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Incursion Snobbery, Elitism and a counter with revenge.

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J Kunjeh
#21 - 2012-02-06 15:39:40 UTC
BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:

It would be a knee-slapping laugh riot if all of the shunned were to band together, locate the Mothership, destroy it and put to an early end the farmer's looting.


Well, you're about 2 weeks late to that party. Krissada, Darius III and crew did just that for a few weeks and it worked wonderfully, until they got bored and started getting risk averse and turning into "kill the mom's bears".

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 

E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
#22 - 2012-02-06 15:52:37 UTC
I disagree OP.

It is not snobbery.

As an FC when I start looking for a fleet of course I take shinnies first...they increase MY isk per hour. Thats all I care about it MY isk per hour. If taking you lower that I do not choose you.

If there is no shinnies and taking you will mean I can run sites and thus increase my isk...I will.

If you want to run inccursions and get picked.

1)Look at the ships that are taken a lot. Not all are supper shinny, and even then some ships like rohks seem to do okay. If I lack shinny dps I take the best of the non shinny.

2)become an FC...you know what is evem more rare than shinies? An FC!
Web sites tell you what ships to call primary and such. Often there is a fleet waiting in the incursion channel with no FC....all you have to do is build up your fleet out of what is there!

You bemoan seeing the incursion channel full of ships not getting taken....well form up and take em out...make some isk and have fun!
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#23 - 2012-02-13 04:45:45 UTC
How to get your "revenge": take part in assault and HQ fleets instead of trying to get into vanguards. Then when the inevitable vanguard nerf occurs, you will be part of the assault community, and the ex-vanguard shiny fleets will disperse with the winds because assaults are too hard to organise.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#24 - 2012-02-13 05:23:45 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Yes.

And btw, if you had payed attention you would have seen the tears already when Krissada and Darius III and co intervened by killing off the incursions ASAP so they were not farmable anymore.


Agreed.

What was even funnier is when PL popped some null sec ones just to spite the dbag mom poppers.

Also, the big tough mom popper fleets are scurred to pop the hi sec island incursions. A billion a day running VG's uncontested is good for the soul.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-02-13 05:36:40 UTC
Good reason to play solo.
"If."
Yummy Tears
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-02-13 05:40:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Yummy Tears
Very little to do with snobbishness and everything to do with people being whiners imo. If you want a fleet, then form one. Gather up all these other "poor" masses and form an 11 man fleet and run some sites.

I taught the class for E-Uni and still Incursion with them for fun. They literally take ANYTHING someone wants to fly so long as it has a tank. Drake with T1 launchers, Brutix with no damage mods in an armor fit. Anything that can tank a site gets accepted and they still manage to make isk from incursions. Certainly a lot more then a random whiner bitching about not being able to get a fleet all the while refusing to FC himself.

FCing incursions are ridiculously easy. All it takes is a minor amount of motivation and you can run sites for as long as you can keep pulling people in.

Also, bad fits and ships get taken all the time. Actually warp around to sites and you'll see battlecruisers and tech 1 battleships (megathrons, rohks, Hyperions etc etc) in fleets regularily)
Cyzlaki
BRAWLS DEEP
HYPE-TRAIN
#27 - 2012-02-13 05:41:57 UTC
Thanks, I will.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#28 - 2012-02-13 05:51:03 UTC
Dust Fourtwenty wrote:
Just import a fake fit and use that in your advertisement at the "shiny" racists, everyone does it and nobody will notice.

Seriously. I saw a dude posting a shiny vindicator fit so I ship scanned him. He had T1 meta 1 guns and had cargo expanders in his lows.

CARGO EXPANDERS
Yummy Tears
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-02-13 05:57:20 UTC
I'll even make this easier for you. If you want to FC, but are unsure how, I'll be giving a general incursion class + FCing class for Eve University next weekend (likely saturday or sunday). Feel free to message me in game, and I will give you details on how to attend the class.

Failing that, you can message me and I will provide you a link to an updated audio recording on the class to listen to if you want once it's complete.
Magnificent Beast
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-02-13 10:13:49 UTC
i saw a guy in a badly fitted t1 drake, before we left to do incursions, he was given fitting advice, t2 modules to use, and then we took of with him.

i see groups of t1 battleships doing vg's on occassion, they would be happy to take you i guess. they usually dont win contests but they probably do ok, and end up in shiny ships soon enough.

your personal experience may vary.
Uppsy Daisy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-02-13 10:19:48 UTC
Quote:
A regular Joe/Jane in anything other than billions worth of foolishness hasn't a snowballs chance in hell of getting into a Vanguard fleet.


Fly Logi.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-02-13 10:27:07 UTC
BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:
I could care less, personally.


AMERICANISMS SPOTTED.

What you just said is that you do care. If you had said that you couldn't care less, this would indicate that your care value is at 0 and cannot drop any lower. However, because this phrase has been warped out of all recognition by Americanisms, you just said that you do, indeed, care on the subject, even if it is a value of just 0.000000001. Therefore, deep down in your soul, you're hurting. Somewhere, an Incursion-bear has injured you, so you're quietly festering.

Show me on the Revenant where the incursionbear touched you.

Dodixie > Hek

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#33 - 2012-02-13 10:29:31 UTC
There's always going to haves and have nots. That said Incursions are wrong in so many ways, but just by removing CONCORD protection from High Sec Incursion systems would fix most of it.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2012-02-13 10:30:14 UTC
BellaDonna Nyghtshade wrote:

As in real life, naturally, the "have nots" vastly outnumber the "haves", yet again, as in real life, fail to recognize their potential power as a cohesive group.

Imagine, for a moment, if the average Chinaman and Chinawoman figured out what the rest of the world sees; that they outnumber their oppresive "keepers" by orders of magnitude. If they were to rise up in unison, and understand that many would die but fight anyway...................

I can see the same here, but economically. And I'm absolutely certain this isn't an original idea, but oh, what fun it could be!


Karl Marx

and

Darius III


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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#35 - 2012-02-13 10:31:44 UTC
Watching the dirty incursion peasants vying for each others attention and acceptance into fleet as I pass through systems makes me smile every time. Desperately yelling about their mach and its fit, trying to prove their worth. The only thing more amusing is their tears when someone like krissada or darius mess up their farming
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-02-13 10:49:13 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Dust Fourtwenty wrote:
Just import a fake fit and use that in your advertisement at the "shiny" racists, everyone does it and nobody will notice.

Seriously. I saw a dude posting a shiny vindicator fit so I ship scanned him. He had T1 meta 1 guns and had cargo expanders in his lows.

CARGO EXPANDERS


I might pop along in a ship with a cargo scanner and embarrass some of these bears.
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