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[Service] MOMfund Investments

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MOMfund
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-02-09 08:50:08 UTC  |  Edited by: MOMfund
Hello pilots,

we are a medium-sized corporation, living in 0.0 Space and have put our focus on building Supercarriers. After months of putting effort into our project (research, organizing, infrastructure, logistics) we wanted to start with the first MOMs last Saturday.
Our production system was designed to build one ship, while the components for another one are manufactured and the mins for a third are collected.

Unfortunately we have been scammed. Ah Member blinded us with big effort and overwhelming motivation. Our BPOs are secured, but he managed to rip off the compressed materials needed for the production along with a lot of isk from our wallets. Because we have been busy in real life the last week, he offered to do the logistics stuff with his jumpfreighters so we can start as planned. Therefore he got access to the wallet (refuel, buy) and ofc to the assets in various systems.

The character is no longer existing, our isk and materials vanished.

We now have the complete infrastructure and bpos but no more isk to start the production.

Since we already have put a lot effort into this, we don’t want to give up. But we need your help. Your help in the meaning of ISK.
We decided to start an investment fund to rebalance our corporation wallet.

The maths:
In our Region (and the neighbor regions) we can buy minerals very cheap. We expect the materials for a mom to come down to about 9 upto 10B ISK. Since we want to build moms in a 3-phase program (buy minerals, manufacturing components, assemble mom) we need to raise 30B ISK to keep all the slots of every phase fed.

In order to regain 30B ISK, we assume that we need to sell 6 Moms at current prices. This will take 18 weeks to be achieved. (a Mom production takes 3 weeks)

So the expected win per mom is about 5B ISK.

Interest:
of course we don’t want to beg for ISK without having a offer ready. We are offering slightly higher interest rates than usual investments do. Why? Because if you decide to invest, you need to keep in mind, that your ISK can’t be exhumed from the production chain, meaning they are stuck for 18 weeks.

After the 18 week period, all investments will be paid back without any interest. But we are now back in business. The win from the next 2 moms (will be taken as 5B fixed) will then be divided and distributed along all the prior investors.

Example:
- You are investing 1B ISK into our program
- After 18 Weeks, we will pay the 1B ISK back.
- 3 weeks after, you get your part of the first sale: 1/30 * 5B = 166,66M
- 3 weeks after, you get your part of the second sale: 1/30 * 5B = 166,66M

So in total, you get 333,33M ISK for investing 1B. That’s a total interest of 33,33 %. Keeping in mind, that the duration of the investment done prior was 18 weeks, this comes down to a weekly interst rate of 1.85% or roughly 7.4% per month.

Questions and Answers:
Your calculation doesn’t contain system rent, sovcost or pos costs?
That’s right. Our corporation is maintaining the current system anyway, so we don’t take this costs into account.

So you are working 24 weeks without any win for your own?
Yes and no. On the one hand side we gain win from refreshing our wallet to the 30B ISK during the program. And on the other side, we expect the win to be slightly highter than 5B / Mom. For our own iskies, we do mining and ratting stoff additional.

Your Char is young and inside a npc corp?
Yes. As you might imagine we don’t want anybody to know that Corporation XY is having BPOs with a 100B+ worth setup in a 0.0-Pos.

How much ISK can I give to you?
Everybody can give as much isk he can afford. Just limited by multiplicities of 500M and a total of 60 parts.

Other peoples have offered upto 30% per month?
Did they just promised it or did they actually paid it? Think about.

How can we get in Touch with you?
Contact for all Questions is the Char “MOMfund”. Either evemail me, convo me or pm on the forums.
We have also created a mailing list called “MOMfund”.

When does the investment start?
As soon as we have raised the first 10B, we’ll start to buy new minerals to get the production slots running.

If you get killed / loose your system?
That’ll not happen. We are here for a long time now, and our Overlords are securing the whole area for several years now, especially CSAA-yards.

But what “if”?
IF that will happen, we need to switch to our plan B in Order to get our production running. We’ll then sell our corp-titan and pay back the isk we’ve raised.

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask me. Ingame or here in the forums.

Sincerely,
MOMfund

Tl;Dr:
- We build supers. We need isk.
- 60 parts of 500M ISK each to share
- 7.4% per month
- Fixed duration of 18 weeks.
- Transfers to MOMfund

4/60 shares given away.
Clearion
Almost Dangerous
Stranger Danger.
#2 - 2012-02-09 09:14:59 UTC
Sometimes you say 18 months, sometimes you say 18 weeks....whats going on here? Also, this is the wrong forum for an investment fund.
MOMfund
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-09 09:18:46 UTC  |  Edited by: MOMfund
Clearion wrote:
Sometimes you say 18 months, sometimes you say 18 weeks....whats going on here? Also, this is the wrong forum for an investment fund.


oh sry, my bad.

18 weeks ofc. (3 weeks per MOM * 6 = 18 weeks)

Sry for the Wrong forum, found a lot of service offers in here.

Edit: OP fixed, hope it now says 18 weeks everywhere.
flakeys
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-02-09 13:41:48 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
VERRY low returns if you ask me for such a high risk investment , and this is about as high risk as one can get.

I'd hope there are some fools left in eve because you will need them to get this one filled for sure.

And on topic of the wrong forum , the right one would be market discussion but don't even take the effort to place it there ... it'll give you enough slack and no investment for sure .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

MOMfund
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-02-09 15:27:03 UTC
I'm not sure, what you are talking about?

Where is the higher Risk compared any other investment?
The interest rate is accurate i think. We are NOT talking about a loan
of 100M isk, where one can give away 10-15% for 5 days.

But you are right about the wrong forums. Just searched the "EVE Marketplace"
Section for the best match. Wasn't looking in "EVE Gameplay center" boards.

However, i may fix the board issue depending on how things turn out.



4/60 shares given away.
Deathwing Malevolent
The Unclaimed
Unclaimable
#6 - 2012-02-09 15:45:43 UTC
MOMfunds?

Do they dance round poles?
flakeys
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-02-09 15:46:13 UTC
MOMfund wrote:
I'm not sure, what you are talking about?

Where is the higher Risk compared any other investment?
The interest rate is accurate i think. We are NOT talking about a loan
of 100M isk, where one can give away 10-15% for 5 days.



Risk:


-alt
-probably no previous loans
-nullsec
-no audit
-just got robbed

to name a few


7% a month for the above .. your not gonna get it , just trust me on this one.


We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Poss Ible
User Disconnected
#8 - 2012-02-10 08:17:48 UTC
flakeys wrote:
MOMfund wrote:
I'm not sure, what you are talking about?

Where is the higher Risk compared any other investment?
The interest rate is accurate i think. We are NOT talking about a loan
of 100M isk, where one can give away 10-15% for 5 days.



Risk:


-alt
-probably no previous loans
-nullsec
-no audit
-just got robbed

to name a few


7% a month for the above .. your not gonna get it , just trust me on this one.




Like he says, before you post this in MD do the following -

Get an Audit done

This will resolve all the risk issues if you get it done via one of the auditors in MD.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-02-10 10:32:44 UTC
SCAM

shar'ra phone home

flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-02-10 16:35:50 UTC
Poss Ible wrote:

This will resolve all the risk issues if you get it done via one of the auditors in MD.


No it won't he still won't get 30 B ... it's not one red light here it's like a frikking disco ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.