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Is EVE dying?

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Sarasha Scoops
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-02-07 09:55:33 UTC
English only please

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Valei Khurelem
#42 - 2012-02-07 09:59:05 UTC
Well if we're going back to English, what would be nice, very nice, is if some of these experienced vets I keep seeing running around bitching about how we're all noobs for getting ganked in 0.0 space would write up a clear and concise guide to living in 0.0 space as a noob without the use of an ISK generating main or a huge alliance behind you while being able to maintain a profit.

If they did that, I'd gladly stfu about the issue of 0.0 space, though I think I'd have a better shot at writing on my own personally.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Sarasha Scoops
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-02-07 10:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarasha Scoops
A lot of them run bots which are in alt corps, actually it's a pretty well known method, and more often then not they put them in russian renters, then they accuse them of botting. It's not even some sort of subterfuge, they're just hypocritical little *****. Though obviously some of them just PVE or live off taxes of the peasants / moon mining. As a noob who doesn't want to bot? You will have to grind out in anoms to fund your ships for your master's wars while paying him for the pleasure.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2012-02-07 10:11:21 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Look kids, another one of these "EVE is dying" threads! Has it been another 2 weeks since the last one already?

EVE has been dying since release.


EVE has a serious PR problem that CCP needs to address.


What are you talking about?
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-02-07 10:14:25 UTC
OP:

Beside that you should´nt post when drunk/drugged/emoraging, i like your post. I really do.
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-02-07 10:33:10 UTC
Sarasha Scoops wrote:

You now realize you will look back on these years when your older and not remember anything because you were in a red eyed zomied haze doing nothing with your life, nothing worth remembering, this game isn't even fun




It's leisure time in effect, if you were not wasting it here, where would you be wasting it instead?

If you worry about feeling that you've been wasting your life playing games, then I'd suggest giving up gaming and go jogging instead assuming you're able to, at least you would keep fit.




As for is EVE dying, people have been saying it's been dying for years. But the game is actually doing ok considering its age.
Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
#47 - 2012-02-07 11:02:39 UTC
This is a good proof that EVE forum is full of stupid trolls. Besides the OP trolling attempt it kinda makes sense, funny thing is most of the players around here refuse to see it.

EVE stagnated and is slowly falling, maybe its CCP fault, maybe its just because the game have 9 years old, maybe its because the players ruined the game. The truth is that 0.0 is dead, Low sec is dead and voila, High Sec is as always was.

Some years ago alliances went to war to conquer better regions, with access to better moons, better rats, etc. Now every ******* alliance can have that, plus the moon income got nerfed to oblivion. So, why should they fight? To lag out and stay with a black screen for 1 hour? To loose their shiny ships? For what?

And low sec corps, why do they fight? Yesterday my alliance went to low sec and in 2 hours found 0 possible engagements. Low sec is ruined with all the capital crap and you need to play for hours (or have a little luck) to find any fight, and for fight i just mean against a opponent that don't blob me from 3 to 1.

People are afraid to loose their ships, that always happened but today is worse, most of players run around in pimped ships/pimped imps and only engage when they out man the other fleet by 10 to 1.

So what to do? What to change? If part of the issue is because of players actions how can CCP change it? Well, i think everyone agree that 0.0 needs to change, Dominion had good intention but ended ruining any possible will to fight for something. Low sec is in a coma for years and that needs to be fixed asap.

CCP lost the imagination and creativity? Well.. We are here to give that so instead of trolling the forum 24/7 start doing what i loved to see when i began playing in 2006, use the forum to talk about the game, to give new ideas and debate about the overall issues. This is not nostalgia its true, forum quality went down the toiled, why? Maybe it's the new generation of players that are simply ******** like most of teenagers i see today.
KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-02-07 11:20:29 UTC
Oh look, it's this thread again.

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade

Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#49 - 2012-02-07 11:38:55 UTC
Around and around the EvE is Dying threads go when they stop nobody knows.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2012-02-07 11:42:02 UTC
You have been dying since your birth.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#51 - 2012-02-07 11:45:58 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
J Random wrote:

Folk are always going to cry about bots I imagine how much more they would cry if the market/mining/null bots quit generating all that passive income/market selling/etc etc and prices sky rocketed. Sure CCP could take over with NPC orders but to be honest I prefer bots any day over CCP NPC agents/corps/etc.


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Valei Khurelem
#52 - 2012-02-07 12:14:18 UTC
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"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Decus Daga
Unfit for Duty
#53 - 2012-02-07 12:22:06 UTC
I was like the author too for a while.

I took a break and realised.... stop thinking of what your aiming for, enjoy what your doing now. I love flying with my mates in fleet, getting kills, getting killed, i enjoy more the occasional pve that replaces my ship losses. I no longer aim for a new dread, or a new super cap, or where we are going to be in 6 months.

Aim for what your going todo in the next 60 seconds or even an hour, enjoy who your flying with, or find a new group. Eve takes too long to train to the best ships available with a perfect fitting and skills(and even that wont save your arse most times).

- Decus Daga
minty freshbreath
Darwin's response
#54 - 2012-02-07 12:35:45 UTC
Sarasha Scoops wrote:
English only please

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Kara Roideater
#55 - 2012-02-07 13:39:25 UTC
Sarasha Scoops wrote:
There's no reason to build a manufactoring or trade empire as ratting is and always shall be the path to ISK



You can make far, far, far more isk in industry than you could hope to in any form of PvE (except, perhaps, someform of quad-boxing in WHs?). Up to 1bil an hour for 1-2 hours a day down to c. 500mil an hour for an indefinite number of hours a day.
SkiD-MaRk
Wambulance
#56 - 2012-02-07 13:39:33 UTC
Ill take part in this weekly doom thread....0/ everyone
Tian Nu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2012-02-07 13:50:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tian Nu
Kara Roideater wrote:
Sarasha Scoops wrote:
There's no reason to build a manufactoring or trade empire as ratting is and always shall be the path to ISK



You can make far, far, far more isk in industry than you could hope to in any form of PvE (except, perhaps, someform of quad-boxing in WHs?). Up to 1bil an hour for 1-2 hours a day down to c. 500mil an hour for an indefinite number of hours a day.


that ask for someone to be inteligent + good knowlage of the game + good investement ppl in EvE (probably 70%) know only how to press F1 Blink

oh and cry about how much they make from incursion.Lol

for the OP no EvE is healthy there is stedy player base which is about 65% and 35% alts.

Father O'Malley about Darius III begging for whelp: “Hows that working out for ya ? I make it 02:21 and all I see is you begging Riverini to get numbers and trying to recruit from the incursion public channel.”

Commander Spurty
#58 - 2012-02-07 14:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Spurty
Prices going up is only bad for the consumer

Producers (people doing all the work) get richer.

Not a big fan of ANY concept of slavery (bots are slaves).

When you think about it, People are so rich that ISK loss is no longer a viable measure of damage done.

When CCP created T3 ships, they had already realized this and added skill point loss to the cost

This is a far greater measure. How far back into the stone age did you send them?

Forget about killboard. They are records of events with ISK as the decider of the war. The actual indivial pilot story usually bares zero resemblance to this ratio. Hell, they may have even profited from the loss with handed out ships and Insurance pay outs.

TL;DR bots are *never* good for the game

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#59 - 2012-02-07 15:15:45 UTC
Sarasha Scoops wrote:
this game isn't even fun


On the contrary, it's been a blast.

Last night I was tracking wartargets and located one running missions in a Deimos. I had him scanned down in an Angel Extravaganza site. I rushed through all the acceleration gates just sure that he would scroll the local list and dock up as soon as he saw me, but no...I made it to the last room and there he was still carebearing away...at 46 km! I overheated my prop and point, started running at him, and...he warped away with about three seconds to spare.

It was disappointing to miss the kill, but the hunt was exciting and simply achieving that level of surprise was fun in itself. I'd have had that kill if I could fly my Proteus already.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#60 - 2012-02-07 15:19:22 UTC
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Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.