Ships & Modules

o_o For all the uses you listed these are way over tanked. You should have 3 heatsinks. You can even roll through L4 missions without all the stuff you have. Just use two mission specific hardeners and one repairer. If you are nervous you can even use rigs to increase your tank but you probably don't need to do that even. Im not sure if you have the skills or not for it but if you do I would use HAMs instead. You can get the same DPS while being able to switch damage types and have an easier time with capacitor management as well as longer range :D.

Not sure about the ammo though!

FMPII's or HPLII's work fine for missions. Try this fit: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/49347-Pimpin-L4-800-DPS-Legion.html

I use a variation of this but honestly as long as you fly it with common sense you will be fine. Move around on the mods as needed for price. Hope this helps, message me in game if you need more fits and I will send you a few.

Mike

Just gonna go down the list.

Kietay: I don't gots HAM or Missile Skills beyond 2/3 at all and I'm trained for T2 Lasers for the most part. I'd also rather overtank then go lose a ship because I was a tool.

Danny John-Peter: Yeah, that bugs me too, a lot but I'm cautious and would rather not be "Oh, I made a mistake and now I am teh ded."

GenesisMilke: I was actually playing around with a set up to similar to that but not sold on it.

Istvaan Shogaatsu: This is why I watch D-Scan in empire. Guess it can't help the 'raped' factor at gates/stations though. How can I improve it so it doesn't Die in a fire easily from a casual ganksquad? If its people who know what they're doing, **** it, I was boned regardless of what I was flying.

For fucks sake train AWU so you can drop the power mods/rigs...

Mike, I think this fit is good but you can swap to the Augmented Capacitor resevoir fit an ACR for the CCC I and drop the large cap battery and still be stable, Should free a mid for a web or another tracking comp.

OP

If youhave to try two reps try the meditation reppers they have better fitting and cap use. Less rep but still with two it should be more than enough.

I would recommend a faction afterburner also, prob Republic Fleet.

Legion's own cap of targets is pretty low IIRC. Keep that in mind.

ARISE YE DEAD THREAD. FOR YOU ARE RELEVANT TO MY NEEDS.

Mkay. So, Incursion Legion Fit.

[[Legion, INCURSIONGOGOGO]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range
Optical Tracking Computer I, Tracking Speed
Gistum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Would this and can this work for Incursions?

Yes, I know that armor rig's in there. But I'm not taking it out for reasons that are painfully obvious. (150m rig)

Dual repping 6x HAMs and an oversized AB works.

Im not gunna make it too easy for you though.

The better your legion, the better fleets you'll be able to access, the higher your isk/hour. You could earn a T2 legion in an evening, at least one very nicely fitted one in a week easily. Set your training to what you want to access to fly, your isk earning rate still has plenty of headroom but you'll soon hit the +5s training SP rate cap.

Dropping the AB for a SeBo is a function of how well you trust the logi pilots you're with. A legion only needs the AB for non-Vanguard sites and if you're doing an OTA when logi problems strike. Else there should be plenty of reps about in either NCOs or NMCs. This is every more of a no-brainer once you're in a fleet with nice offgrid ganglinks running. So try find some reliable regulars to let you bring a more efficient fit. There's no need for legions to even move in NCOs. The SeBo really helps once you're talking about legion fleets contesting legion fleets.

As for cap, I wasn't expecting you'd be fed any anyway, I'm used to running only with Oneiros support, we dps-tank by just melting everything asap with those bonused Tracking Links on us. I suggest you aim for such fleets too, as frankly flying in mixed/other armour fleets is holding back your legion. We can safely win contested sites going in 8 wrecks late with just 6 dps ships and 1 logi on grid again bad NCO fleets.

See how stable you are by EFTing swapping 1 CCC for an EM rig, and swapping the EM hardener for a HS or TE. Also know that the top a-type passive energised thermic hardeners are only ~60mil (same ballpark as your HSs/web) iirc and will also help your cap, as well as make your tank unable to be neuted off/forgotten to be turned on as you jump systems. You really should be able to get stable with the 3rd HS, and when you get to good fleets you'll find any stability issues that the 4th one might bring are again solved by the sheer dps your fleet's applying to the frigates.

[Legion, Master of the NCOs]

Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M

Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution

Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1600mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I
Centum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II

You may want a PG implant, or to use a 'bailey' 1600mm plate. Also faction TCs and SeBo. With just 5% medium laser 2.5-Gamma and 5% all turret dps G2-Delta that's 860dps at ~20km, before heat. With 6%s and heat, 9 legions are pushing >9000dps applied well against frigates once you factor in 8TLs per fleet. Just graph how well large guns track 62m sigs with any transversal before you suggest other ships come close. The Abso is the only other dps contender and it has huge tradeoffs.
A CX- rather than -Delta implant might also make a small difference to your cap use. There is of course the -Beta line of implants to directly reduce your gun cap use too, but they clash with the AX- tracking implant line.
For every little help in a contest, Synth drugs are legal in all space, for 3% bonuses to cap/tracking/sig reduction, etc and will last up to an hour per use.

I have not mentioned officer modules yet but you can find yourself contesting such levels of isk & min-maxing in incursions. Also people using High Grade Slave implant sets to be able to remove the plate and free up a lowslot.

Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, Concord only provides consequences, have a spare logi trailing you, fly what is fun to you, etc