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how to kill a hulk solo in high sec

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2012-02-04 17:04:19 UTC
Dimitri Jackal wrote:

Ok, I ran the test - you CANNOT BOARD A SHIP if you have GCC. Damn.


unless this has been recently changed this is wrong

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#62 - 2012-02-04 17:05:13 UTC
you can't board your own ships: you can board ones 'owned' by someone else

so, say, the eight thrashers your orca just ejected are fair game

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#63 - 2012-02-04 17:38:34 UTC
why would you eject thrashers? I can't see agricultural equipment being much use in space. Nuclear bombs, on the other hand, would fare a lot better

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2012-02-04 17:51:28 UTC
because a thrasher is basically a podseeking missile and 0wns for podding someone when you have a gcc

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GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#65 - 2012-02-06 17:14:15 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:
Am I the only one that finds it ironic that people criticize miners for doing something that makes little isk by engaging in an activity, IE ganking miners, that makes even less ISK per hour than the miners do?

did you seriously just claim that isk/hour is what matters in ganking

this is why we murder you


I have never mined a single m3 of ore. Why would I when I can make billions by logging in for minutes a day? Same goes for ganking, what a total waste of time unless you have a tiny little stump for manhood between your legs. I am terribly amused how anyone who dares to point out the ******** logic employed in this thread has to be a miner.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#66 - 2012-02-06 17:20:01 UTC
Confirming that people that gank do so exclusively and certainly don't do it because this is a videogame and they find it entertaining.

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GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#67 - 2012-02-06 17:39:20 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Confirming that people that gank do so exclusively and certainly don't do it because this is a videogame and they find it entertaining.


Oh I see, now we have arrived at "it is just a game" since someone pointed out the absurd logic.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#68 - 2012-02-06 17:42:58 UTC
The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.

If you enjoy mining then more power to you.

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Count Spank
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2012-02-06 19:19:03 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Confirming that people that gank do so exclusively and certainly don't do it because this is a videogame and they find it entertaining.


Yes. They do lady spank,

Please do some more research before talk this nonsense
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#70 - 2012-02-07 00:46:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Shazzam Vokanavom
Lady Spank wrote:
The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.

If you enjoy mining then more power to you.


However, by stating that you are deliberatley excluding certain professions as viable and so confirming the undervalued position of mining.

Maybe all miners should sue CCP for failed representation of how people are "supposed" to play the game?

This is in fact the very essence of your so called logical argument, the brokerage of fun, in that some fun has more value than others. Maybe then those that choose to be miners should get a reduced subscription rate as a result? And suicide gankers should have a higher rate accordingly? Not that it will stop the free plexing per afternoon, oh, until there are no more miners left to farm in this way?

See, I can also manipulate logic to the absurb. Blink

Anyway, I'm a paying EvE player who won't be prescribed to in this way and will fight for equality in the fun stock market. And CCP have the opportunity for accomodating numerous interests in this game, not just suicide gankers. Which funnily enough helps their buisness model.

The most stupidest point about your argument is that by reducing the industrials capabilites to earn, provides less targets for the Suicide ganker, so using a logical argument, you are removing the amount of pinatas available to you by being so over protective of your own little patch of EvE.
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#71 - 2012-02-07 04:44:33 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.

If you enjoy mining then more power to you.


This is all well and good except I didn't make the case that ganking is profitable or a wise use of time, the simpletons in this thread were the ones making a pathetic attempt at that. Complain to them if you don't like my post.

As for mining, it is a complete waste of my talent, I made more in the last two days in Jita than a miner can make in a month. Although being a right and proper stock jobber, I'd be happy to buy their ore and ship it wherever my clients like for a handsome profit.
TetraEtc
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-02-07 08:52:14 UTC
I really should learn how to trade...

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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#73 - 2012-02-07 12:42:20 UTC
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
The absurd logic is that something has to be profitable. Maybe some people take offense at miners for doing lowly work but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as target practice just because that also doesn't make money (although it does). At any rate, mining is so disengaged an activity that a macro can do it better than a human being. Ganking at least means you are enjoying yourself.

If you enjoy mining then more power to you.


This is all well and good except I didn't make the case that ganking is profitable or a wise use of time, the simpletons in this thread were the ones making a pathetic attempt at that. Complain to them if you don't like my post.

As for mining, it is a complete waste of my talent, I made more in the last two days in Jita than a miner can make in a month. Although being a right and proper stock jobber, I'd be happy to buy their ore and ship it wherever my clients like for a handsome profit.


Yeah, so what? Making ISK via trade is dead easy. Personally, I think there needs to be a big increase in the transaction Tax - from 0.5% up to at least 10-15%. The question is, when you are sitting on hundreds of billions - what do you do with it, other than play for free via PLEX? Yeah, I could personally gank at a loss without any trouble. I even use that ISK to pay other TEARS members a 75M bounty - every time they kill a Mackinaw that hasn't paid tribute.

The point I was trying to make is you DONT have to gank at a loss. You can earn ISK doing it, and that makes the game of killing Exhumers affordable to FAR more players. And I want to see the maximum amount of participation from others as well....

I also noticed a tweet from CCP: apparently TEARS Alliance has killed the most hi-sec Exhumers in January with 169 down, with Smodab's crew posting in at 130 something. We hope to improve on that this month.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#74 - 2012-02-07 14:20:41 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Yeah, so what? Making ISK via trade is dead easy. Personally, I think there needs to be a big increase in the transaction Tax - from 0.5% up to at least 10-15%.


Personally, once WiS is up and running (no, walking in a closet-sized room doesn't count as WiS), I would love to shoot the players that are docked in station. Especially if I have to go all Splinter Cell on their ass.

Adapt or Die
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#75 - 2012-02-07 17:14:46 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:


Yeah, so what? Making ISK via trade is dead easy. Personally, I think there needs to be a big increase in the transaction Tax - from 0.5% up to at least 10-15%. The question is, when you are sitting on hundreds of billions - what do you do with it, other than play for free via PLEX? Yeah, I could personally gank at a loss without any trouble. I even use that ISK to pay other TEARS members a 75M bounty - every time they kill a Mackinaw that hasn't paid tribute.

The point I was trying to make is you DONT have to gank at a loss. You can earn ISK doing it, and that makes the game of killing Exhumers affordable to FAR more players. And I want to see the maximum amount of participation from others as well....

I also noticed a tweet from CCP: apparently TEARS Alliance has killed the most hi-sec Exhumers in January with 169 down, with Smodab's crew posting in at 130 something. We hope to improve on that this month.




And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#76 - 2012-02-07 22:25:56 UTC
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:

And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.


So, I am posting about how to gank miners, in a thread about how to gank miners.

You are posting off-topic about how space-rich you are, for what reason, I fail to grasp.

And I'm the one waving the e-peen?

Tard.
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#77 - 2012-02-07 22:52:19 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:

And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.


So, I am posting about how to gank miners, in a thread about how to gank miners.

You are posting off-topic about how space-rich you are, for what reason, I fail to grasp.

And I'm the one waving the e-peen?

Tard.



He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect.
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#78 - 2012-02-07 23:30:22 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:

And we all know that 75M is veritable king's ransom! We have already drenched the mining profession with tears in this thread, now we are going to cry because station traders make money too. Never mind basic economics which says additional taxes will simply be added to the prices end users pay. Where does it all end? I'm calling CCP right now, I am ordering their programmers and engineers to work overtime this weekend to make sure you have a manhood of 15" added to your avatar, you obviously need it in order to feel better about yourself.


So, I am posting about how to gank miners, in a thread about how to gank miners.

You are posting off-topic about how space-rich you are, for what reason, I fail to grasp.

And I'm the one waving the e-peen?

Tard.


I'm guessing that you fail to grasp quite a bit, sir. If you would have actually read the posts you would have seen that one of your little friends insisted that I must be a miner because I had the audacity to point out the flawed logic in this thread. Posts like that are painful to some on this board, just judging by the responses. That brought about my comment, which was why would I mine when I am already filthy space rich? Why would I soil myself in the fields with the peasantry griefer trash?


GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#79 - 2012-02-07 23:35:47 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
He's one of those close minded morons, convinced of their superior intellect.


I apologize that you feel intimidated by someone who posts above the third grade level. With that in mind, I have a four year old here, I asked him to tell me what I should call you in response to your assertion that I am a "close minded moron".

He said you are a "stinky pants doo doo head". I hope that is on your level and we can have further dialogue.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#80 - 2012-02-08 00:08:07 UTC
So, if you aren't a miner and you aren't a ganker, why are you even posting here? Roll

Its not 'how much' ISK you make - its HOW its made.

Some people like instapopping Hulks and Macks, and pulling ISK from their smoking wreckage - then selling those same miners brand new Hulks and Macks - then tracking and popping them again until they quit EVE.

Others like sitting in Jita and playing 0.01 ISK games all day long with the market bots.

Earning 120-150B+ via trade isn't particularly hard, or even worth bragging about. I know, because I've done it. It literally requires the brainpower of a chimp - so congrats. You are on par with a lower primate.

And ganking Exhumers doesn't require profit - only to generate tears and rage-quits. But earning some extra ISK in the bargain sure as hell doesn't hurt.