Science & Industry

I absolutely agree.

Those implants are seen as more or less essential when flying a command ship or industrial command ship but especially the mining foreman mindlink costs a silly lot of ISK. Either seed them through the LP store like Rakshasa Verr suggested or let us produce them.

I, too, would like to be able to produce HG Slave sets from tritanium and farts as they are essential to the operation of my Damnation

I concur, something should be done... 600-1bil is ridiculous... We should be able to produce the Mining Foreman Mindlink or they should make them more available either by the suggested LP stores or via storyline agents or special drops.

I've seen and heard so many stories about how just a couple years ago these things were 40mil. 8 months ago they were around 360-380mil now they are at average of 700mil with only about 50 on the market...

CCP please do something...

Lets make the Mining Foreman Mindlink more reasonable.

IIRC this price increase happened within a 4 day span about 18 months ago or so.

I had bought 5 of them for 98,000,000 and then noticed they sold for 150,000,000. Went back to Amarr for more and they were already 235,000,000. Literally within days. OBVIOUS manipulation spurred by the announcement of additional Storylines though. They hopped onto a price-hike, and it's never come down.

BUT they should be rather expensive. BTW, how come nobody complains about the price of the Michi Implant ?????

{{{{{{ sprays anti-Bumblefck Repellant }}}}}

Oh...I believe they noticed and know.

It's ALL about screwing around with Industrialists anymore.

I am in favor of continuing the push for a player-driven economy if only because it expands game content at the expense of RNG drops. RNG should not be the best way to design game mechanics, especially when it comes to economics. If you want to get a mindlink now, you need to grind, WoW style, through missions until you get your fuzzy +10 hat.

Having T1 implant BPOs are an excellent way to start. CCP can introduce new materials for implants that can be tied into new content for areas of the game (i.e.: implant "goo" found in Faction Warfare/Wormhole space).

No building pirate implants, though. Those need to stay in the LP stores.

Ok, let me put this scenario to you

One of my alts has the mindlink in, and we join a 0.0 corp, the normal way of getting clones up there are the usual set medical and pod-express, but instead you've got to fly the clone up there due to the mindlink, so there's plenty of opportunity if you're unlucky enough to stumble on a good gate-camp.

The last time I left 0.0, we were evacuating the area and I was lucky enough to catch a titan bridge out to low-sec.

So there are chances to get your mindlink killed, not huge chances, but chances all the same.

I think the idea of them been seeded on the LP stores (all mindlinks) is a great one, I'd be happy spending LP's and a good chunk of isk, they don't want to be too cheap, currently I think the most expensive things are 800,000 LP and 80,000,000 Isk and that's things like Rattlesnakes, Nightmares, Bhaalgorns etc.
Thinking about it, why should a little box you plug into your head cost as much as a battleship, maybe around the 350-400k LP and 35-40mil Isk seems about right.

And as long as it's not for a limited corp like ORE where they're all nullsec

Which is why ALL mindlinks should be seeded on the LP stores, not just the Mining ones.

It's yet another kick in the teeth for the few industrialists that are left wondering why they still continue. I've got no doubt that there were many arguments for and against them becoming rarer at the time.

The other solution of course is to make them a legacy item, remove them from the game and nobody has the advantage over someone else :)

It's basically down to supply and demand, whilever supply is limited and demand is high (be it botters or genuine miners) wanting them, then the prices will always be high, CCP can't fix the price any way apart from seeding them more.

And Bumblefck, you can have your estemels invuln when I find a state issue raven in my hangar.

I can see arguments both ways, but looking at eve-marketdata.com, all the others can be found for well under 120mil, and they all improve the efficiency of the fleet, so using them to farm incursions etc leads to more isk, yet the mining one is 640mil+, can't help but feel a little unbalanced.

There's no solution that will please everyone unless they just seed them and nobody (apart from the investors who've got a few stashed away waiting for the prices to rise higher and higher) would lose out.

Industrialists are already seen as the low-life of eve, why give them another kick?

Was I crying about mindlinks? I was joining in on a thread about mindlinks and expressing an opinion, is that so wrong?

I commented that All mindlinks should be available via the LP store, not just the mining ones, and you missed the humour about the state issue raven.

the problem with the sandbox is every so often, CCP comes along and takes a dump in the sandbox, which is why the mining mindlink costs over 5 times as much as the other ones, so there's obviously an inbalance somewhere, I know about random etc, you could get the same one 5 times in a row, it's random, but the thing is they could redress the balance should they want to, and slowly that would bring the price of them down to be comparable with the others.

I don't get the reference to moon mining, if I wanted to live in nullsec I'd live in nullsec, I don't want to live in nullsec so I don't live in nullsec. If I wanted to mine Ark, Bist, Crok, Merc, Dark Glitter etc, I'd live in null, and put up with the nullsec politics.

^^Exactly -

If it ain't worth the 750 million, don't buy it.