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not enough risk in this game!
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Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-02-04 11:14:57 UTC
right now the issue is THERE IS NO RETORT FOR SOMEONE THATS USING RECYCLABLE CHARACTERS
spy/suicide gank to hearts desire, biomass alt (or sell) when character is too well known, make new one, rinse and repeat
also, there are always talk of "getting back at people" but in a game where death is a slap on the wrist and they have nothing to take, what can you take to get even?

known botters simply sell the character after it gets warned and buy/make another one for their tengu alts

eve is not a harsh universe, it is simply spreadsheets in space. the only thing harsh about it is the assholeism (excuse my language) that other players do and make a religion about it.

you will NEVER get podded by anyone other than a player.
there is absolutely no risk from the NPCs other than another player showing up.
there is no consequences in Eve Online, only from other players, and that reach is short as they can only take things you put in front of them.

NPCs will never retaliate, will never think, and will never ever pose an actual threat.


why is this game advertised as a "cold harsh universe" when the only "cold harsh" i get is from the 0.0 overlords or other players?
Keno Skir
#2 - 2012-02-04 11:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
How would you suggest policing what actual real person is using what character? Get ccp to hack everyones webcam and make webcams mandatory? Special EvE Online thumbprint / retinal scanners for login?

Fair enough its a gap in the game, but since you have no ideas for fixing it and just want to rant on the forums i feel that you post is lacking in substance. The same thing could happen in any other game where the option to make a new account is available, and while it sucks a bit there really isnt much anyone can do about it.

EXTRA NOTE BY EDIT : Barbie D0LL you should pick better fights if you want more risk, your killboards show only 4 kills, 3 of which defenceless mining ships with several other pilots on her team as well for all kills. If you want the risk of being podded you need to enter a fight with an armed ship in the first place.

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Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-02-04 11:42:25 UTC
Problem is if you hound someone through all their characters (accounts even) you are taking the fight out of the game and making it personal, which would be seen as a form of harassment.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-02-04 12:11:37 UTC
not enough risk in the game..

figures
Liam Mirren
#5 - 2012-02-04 12:11:37 UTC
- complains about lack of risk
- uses forum alt

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Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-02-04 12:44:43 UTC
I think that CCP should add more risk.
Every hour your ship has a 50% chance to explode.
It can be reduced by "Anti Explosion Measures(rank 3)" 1% per skill level. "Advanced Anti Explosion Measures(rank 8)" 0,5% per skill level. And Anti Exploding Implants which can be inserted in every slot for 0,75% per implant.
This would make eve more fun and exciting.
Spectre80
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-02-04 13:10:22 UTC
90% of eve players are huge gaping assholes, me included.
Raiz Nhell
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-02-04 13:24:47 UTC
If the game isn't for you then play something else... No whining in forums....

And if you get that worked up about it, then I recommend 3 deep breaths, and 100 lines...

"its just a game, if I'm not happy, I can find another game, it's just a game"

Otherwise harden up and make pretty explosions...

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#9 - 2012-02-04 13:25:17 UTC
ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account.

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Azitek
Serenity Labs
#10 - 2012-02-04 13:32:35 UTC
I agree that more aggressive NPCs would be awesome. Deployed your POS in a WH? Expect sleepers to start shooting it in a couple days. WH in your highsec system? Be on the lookout for sleeper scout gangs in your belts. Got popped in an incursion? Better start spamming that warp button before the rats pod you.
Honnete Du Decimer
#11 - 2012-02-04 13:33:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Honnete Du Decimer
Sasha Azala wrote:
Problem is if you hound someone through all their characters (accounts even) you are taking the fight out of the game and making it personal, which would be seen as a form of harassment.

Problem is they attack you and have no risk. No can hit them place hurt the most.
Liam Mirren wrote:
- complains about lack of risk
- uses forum alt


You no like also - come cry corner with us! Andreski here already. Twisted
Barbie D0ll wrote:
recyclable characters?


Big problem for this and alt account here.

PMS [:p]
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#12 - 2012-02-04 13:36:04 UTC
It's a game it still needs to be fun play, not a omg think I better not undock today situation.

You want more risk? Go fly in your incursion faction fit boat and start p-ing people off in local.Twisted
Ghoest
#13 - 2012-02-04 13:36:37 UTC
@ OP

Risk is regulated by the players.
Its this way in all similar games.
Players choose activities with a level and risk and reward level that makes them comfortable.

Dont be such a noob.

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Honnete Du Decimer
#14 - 2012-02-04 13:39:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Honnete Du Decimer
Pak Narhoo wrote:
It's a game it still needs to be fun play, not a omg think I better not undock today situation.

You want more risk? Go fly in your incursion faction fit boat and start p-ing people off in local.Twisted


Equal of risk. People who use alt no have. Old rich alt is hide safe, make ISK. New rubbish one die - he no care. All want is easy alpha gank on your main then he hide - cowards.

Game in many way make too ease for the slime people.

PMS [:p]
Pelador Rova
No Luck Corp
#15 - 2012-02-04 14:53:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Pelador Rova
Well seeing as you have no figures to support your claim, I thought I would do a simple quick study.

Its a count of pages of all monthly kills on EvE Kill, which in theory should show the relative scale of aggression in EvE, it has a trend line included.

The trend figures show a relative growth of kills over the period Jan 2009 to Jan 2012 as roughly an increase of 10 percent.

EvE Kill Page Counts
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2012-02-04 15:04:22 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account.



'Tis quite amazing that is has not been Policy all along.

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Jonny Lumi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-02-04 15:49:21 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account.



'Tis quite amazing that is has not been Policy all along.


It's quite amazing that IP-address is tattooed into a person's skin, and the poor bastard is not allowed to change it ever. Luckily one IP-address is only used by one person in the whole world.

Roll
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#18 - 2012-02-04 16:01:58 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account.


Ok, so they just release their ip and get a new one. Now someone else gets that ip from the ISP and they can never play. Not a solution.

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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-02-04 16:15:08 UTC
So if I control all of Europe in Risk, then I generate how many extra armies again...?

Oh, wrong risk - sorry. P
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#20 - 2012-02-04 16:36:09 UTC
Well if you bought an entire IP range.

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