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ACESsiggy
Deaths Consortium
#1 - 2012-02-02 23:18:59 UTC
I am currently looking to get involved in some incursions. I have yet to try it out and I'm looking to join a group. I'm pretty deep in Gallente skills (armor tanking, drones, etc) so if there is any core group of incursion hunters out there, please slip me a message in game or by mail.

Thanks in advance,

ACESsiggyCool

“The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.”
drdxie
#2 - 2012-02-02 23:48:54 UTC
look here and join "btl armor" chat channel

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
ACESsiggy
Deaths Consortium
#3 - 2012-02-03 00:23:56 UTC
drdxie wrote:
look here and join "btl armor" chat channel


Ty for the info, added the channel.

“The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.”
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#4 - 2012-02-15 19:40:17 UTC
TRY TDF chat "The Ditanium Fleet" for armor ( which most Gallante fits are) the Domi BS though does not get any luv though there sorry to say... DOMI's are really drone/repper BS's. Drone ships are not really used in any Incursion fleet docterines well except with the exception of a few HQ sites ( most notably the MOM revenant site ) spider tanking really is fail for the most part in Incursions for a couple reasons. 
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Phoenix Torp
Almost Absolute
#5 - 2012-02-15 22:20:00 UTC
I have talked with a mate in the game and have explained to me that there are 2 types of incursion groups: trash and shinny.
He does in trash groups with Maelstrom (actually, he will buy Mach) and make 100M/hour. About shinny groups, he has said that they (normally) need machariel, nightmare and vindicator in some cases.
I have Gallente/Caldari trained, including all Missiles/Hybrid, so i suppose that Vindicator would be the correct approach, but don't want to waste a lot of training for then having problems to get a group if i can grind LP's in a pimped Tengu for L4.

What would you prefer in your experience for maximum ISK? Vindicator in incursions or Tengu in your L4 local agent?

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-02-16 04:36:07 UTC
100m/h in a trash "bring whatever" fleet .... sure sure ... with the fleet numbers were getting your sometimes hard pressed to make that even in shiny t3 fleet due to low availability of NCOs etc
Zentil Rally
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-02-19 04:32:01 UTC
I hear a lot of people throwing out the "nightmare" and "mach" but if you are just getting into it "new" and say i am flying a Abaddon. I cant afford a mach or nightmare so where would i best look, i have a hard time thinking that someone could be so harsh and rejected me quickly when everyone had to start somewhere. i have done one incursion but it was the equivalent of a lvl 1 mission, i think it was like a cruiser site or something.
Byron Squared
FCI Solvents
#8 - 2012-02-19 05:46:14 UTC
Shiny = mach, NM, maybe vindi, maybe balg, maybe loki. All of the above shield fit. Really the only armor tanker that does well is legion (legion fleets dominate everything but OTAs). If you fly gallente I would bring an Onerios. Every fleet uses logistics. A couple of Onerios in a legion fleet = Much money. In an ideal world ~3 min NCOs at 10 million/pop. Do the math. 100 million/hr is easily doable in a shiny fleet without too much competition (i.e. not on a weekend). With the LP/salvage values way down level 4s don't come close. You will need logi 5 to get in on a decent fleet. If you are cross trained in Caldari (as tengu implies) Basilisk do well. Sorry about the spelling :^) For strait Gallente you will have more luck in a navy mega (either shield or armor) than a domi.
Broken Thoughts
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-19 21:32:28 UTC
Zentil Rally wrote:
I hear a lot of people throwing out the "nightmare" and "mach" but if you are just getting into it "new" and say i am flying a Abaddon. I cant afford a mach or nightmare so where would i best look, i have a hard time thinking that someone could be so harsh and rejected me quickly when everyone had to start somewhere. i have done one incursion but it was the equivalent of a lvl 1 mission, i think it was like a cruiser site or something.


if you dont own a faction battleship, dont do incursions.
if you dont own t2 guns, dont do incursions.

you will get only shitfleets that everyone will contest with a laugh and you will make less money than with lvl 4 missions.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#10 - 2012-02-19 21:51:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Broken Thoughts wrote:


if you dont own a faction battleship, dont do vanguards during peak hours.
if you dont own t2 guns, dont do vanguards during peak hours.

Fixed that for you.

You can still make a good amount of isk in a fleet full of nothing but T1/navy battleships...the only issue is crowding and people taking the sites. And that's just vanguards.

HQ and Assault fleets generally have an entire system to themselves, and aren't terribly picky about fleet comp in comparison to vanguards. With a good fleet you can still top 60m/hr or so in either, and with much more consistency than a vanguard fleet that has to contest every other site. (provided you don't have a system full of NCN or TPPH, of course... Evil)

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Saul Shardani
People of the Saiya
Silent Company
#11 - 2012-02-20 02:57:29 UTC
So I've done a few VG Incursions already in my beloved Navy 'Geddon, and never had a problem or even got close to dying in a fleet of mixed consist, so whats the big fuss about 'shiny' fleets? More DPS for easier site contesting? Faster site clearing?
betty
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-20 03:49:42 UTC
I myself ran my first VG last night, I am really lucky my main corp has a team that runs these, so I had lots of info.

I bought a mach did a semi pimp fit but am still building up to t2 guns.

The information in these pages is very good mostly apart from when peaople start getting personal.

So to sum up VG are isk makers to contest you need better DPS then the guys your shooting against plus knowledge.

If you cant spend 1-1.5 bill on ship fittings and implants dont get offended by not getting invite offers.

FC unless they really know you want DPS not some DPS. Also gal boats are nice with the drones think about your damage at longer ranges. My mach hits pretty good at 60 k's but much better at 45. I remeber blasters being pretty range limited.

GL
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#13 - 2012-04-16 08:06:02 UTC
Saul Shardani wrote:
So I've done a few VG Incursions already in my beloved Navy 'Geddon, and never had a problem or even got close to dying in a fleet of mixed consist, so whats the big fuss about 'shiny' fleets? More DPS for easier site contesting? Faster site clearing?


its the difference between alot of money and a RIDICULOUS amount of money
winning a contest is faster then doing a site by yourself
min/maxing is a fun part of RPGs and MMOs
when you invest isk into making something awesome, you dont want fleet members that drag you down

just a few reason i can think of

♞
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-04-16 08:24:51 UTC
assuming i can afford a blinged out nightmare, is there a point in flying incursions without t2 guns?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-04-16 09:52:01 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
assuming i can afford a blinged out nightmare, is there a point in flying incursions without t2 guns?


Yes. For snipers meta4's are fine.

In more general terms, you can get into incursions with 100m isk (I did).

Fit a harbinger like the second one on http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=ArmorHarbinger . You can depimp the web and the INEANM. I even had success with the first fit on that page. During peak hours, you won't get picked over all the legions doing vanguards but you can get in an assault fleet.

An alternative starting point is a navy apoc mith meta4 beams or tachs. You don't need T2 weapons that way. You might even get invited in a normal apoc.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-16 11:01:00 UTC
**** meta4. if i can afford a nightmare i can easily afford a few faction pulses or tachs. which brings me to the next question: if you run with pulses, can you afford to not have scorch?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-04-16 12:32:18 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
**** meta4. if i can afford a nightmare i can easily afford a few faction pulses or tachs. which brings me to the next question: if you run with pulses, can you afford to not have scorch?


Well considering you cannot use Scorch on T1 Guns, Smooth move Captain.

The next question, If you can use T2 Guns, Why are you not using them, Or I miss read.

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-04-16 16:45:16 UTC
Herr Ronin wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
**** meta4. if i can afford a nightmare i can easily afford a few faction pulses or tachs. which brings me to the next question: if you run with pulses, can you afford to not have scorch?


Well considering you cannot use Scorch on T1 Guns, Smooth move Captain.

The next question, If you can use T2 Guns, Why are you not using them, Or I miss read.

He' s asking if faction pulses are acceptable.
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#19 - 2012-04-16 18:01:28 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
Herr Ronin wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
**** meta4. if i can afford a nightmare i can easily afford a few faction pulses or tachs. which brings me to the next question: if you run with pulses, can you afford to not have scorch?


Well considering you cannot use Scorch on T1 Guns, Smooth move Captain.

The next question, If you can use T2 Guns, Why are you not using them, Or I miss read.

He' s asking if faction pulses are acceptable.



for the best of the best? no... to make decent money in incursions? yes
if you wanna get into incursions though defiantly train T2 guns cause it opens up so many doors ^o^

♞
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-04-16 23:35:55 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
for the best of the best? no... to make decent money in incursions? yes
if you wanna get into incursions though defiantly train T2 guns cause it opens up so many doors ^o^


thank you, that was the answer i was looking for.

I should buy an Ishtar.
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