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pvp Navy Omen or Zealot.

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Squrriel Insurgent
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-02-02 22:33:46 UTC
I know this might be a dumb question...but I am in the market for a new pvp ship and I was looking at the navy omen and the zealot. I know the zealot has a damage bonus over the navy, but the price tag is double. Should I not let the price sway me?
Dantivio
Celestial Drilling
#2 - 2012-02-02 22:35:39 UTC
Squrriel Insurgent wrote:
I know this might be a dumb question...but I am in the market for a new pvp ship and I was looking at the navy omen and the zealot. I know the zealot has a damage bonus over the navy, but the price tag is double. Should I not let the price sway me?


id say you get what you pay for. just go for the zealot.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#3 - 2012-02-02 22:36:02 UTC
That would depend on the size of your wallet.

In my opinion the Zealot is the superior ship for most encounters.

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Squrriel Insurgent
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-02-02 22:39:44 UTC
Can you give me a quick explain of the differences. Besides the ones that stand out.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#5 - 2012-02-02 22:56:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Ships and modules is that way.

Anyway - depends on what you do with it - Zealot gains a range, rof and damage bonus on lasers and lacks a drone bay whilst being more skill intensive whereas the Navy Omen only gets a rof bonus (which is better than the zealots rof bonus), keeps a drone bay, has more base EHP, worse resistances, an additional High- and Rigslot more CPU and less grid.

All in all, the Zealot is the better gang-pvp ship whereas the Navy Omen may be better for pve under most circumstances...
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-02-02 22:57:32 UTC
WTF is up with your protrait!? Are you some kind of space clown or something?

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-02 23:05:59 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
WTF is up with your protrait!? Are you some kind of space clown or something?

That had me laughing pretty hard...

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Squrriel Insurgent
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-02-03 01:06:21 UTC
Haha nice... But still thanks for the info.
CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2012-02-03 01:16:26 UTC
*takes off dev hat and puts on player hat*

Depends on your gang composition, for mixed small gang / solo I would take the navy omen with FMPs based on price and having a drone bay. You buffer and resist fit it but watch your back because everyone loves a navy kill.

If you have a larger organized fleet then the Zealot can fit in both long range shield sniper gangs (although you don't see these very often) or in close range afterburner fit armor HAC gangs with logistic support. Both of these rely on good team work though. The only time I would take a normal pulse zealot out in a mixed gang would go to a gate / drag bubble camp where you can run away if you need to, because the Zealot would be high up the primary target list due to its damage.

Or you can just fly a harbinger which is cheaper, tougher and requires less effort.

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destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#10 - 2012-02-03 01:26:37 UTC
Sniper Fit Zealot FTW
Phantasm is a good pew pew ship too. same price as a zealot.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#11 - 2012-02-03 03:28:16 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
WTF is up with your protrait!? Are you some kind of space clown or something?

That had me laughing pretty hard...

lol! Me too... Big smile

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#12 - 2012-02-03 07:37:15 UTC
Harbinger.
Stonecold Steve
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#13 - 2012-02-03 08:02:13 UTC
I prefer flying the Navy issue Omen, only cause it has drones. When your tackled by an inty or frigate you just unleash the hounds and burn them down.

Another reason is if you fit the omen with some heatsinks your rate of fire goes through the roof. It gives epic uzi effect!

lowslots: DC2, EANM, Heatsinks50% / Tracking Enhancers50% (or less, if you want even more RoF). note; do fit medium pulse lasers.

The only reason i use a zealot for is when flying armor hac fleets, which i never do actually! :P

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Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-02-03 08:05:18 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
*takes off dev hat and puts on player hat*

Depends on your gang composition, for mixed small gang / solo I would take the navy omen with FMPs based on price and having a drone bay. You buffer and resist fit it but watch your back because everyone loves a navy kill.

If you have a larger organized fleet then the Zealot can fit in both long range shield sniper gangs (although you don't see these very often) or in close range afterburner fit armor HAC gangs with logistic support. Both of these rely on good team work though. The only time I would take a normal pulse zealot out in a mixed gang would go to a gate / drag bubble camp where you can run away if you need to, because the Zealot would be high up the primary target list due to its damage.

Or you can just fly a harbinger which is cheaper, tougher and requires less effort.

Can you please give us some example fits, to help us compare them? I also want you to include stats, not just modules, drones, and rigs. That includes DPS and Effective HP.

Also, some times indication how fast a certain fit performs a certain mission would also be very nice. I know I am asking ally, especially since I am asking a Dev, but we all want this game to be as enjoyable as possible.

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Jacob Stiller
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-02-03 08:07:49 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
WTF is up with your protrait!? Are you some kind of space clown or something?


POTM
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-02-03 08:11:46 UTC
Stonecold Steve wrote:
I prefer flying the Navy issue Omen, only cause it has drones. When your tackled by an inty or frigate you just unleash the hounds and burn them down.

Another reason is if you fit the omen with some heatsinks your rate of fire goes through the roof. It gives epic uzi effect!

lowslots: DC2, EANM, Heatsinks50% / Tracking Enhancers50% (or less, if you want even more RoF). note; do fit medium pulse lasers.

The only reason i use a zealot for is when flying armor hac fleets, which i never do actually! :P

What a coincidence. I happen to use a Navy Issue.

The Navy Issue Omen looks WAY sexier than the normal one. That is the main reason I bought it.

Footnote: Can you please merge my two posts? I typed this on a Kindle Fire, which doesn't have an option for copying text.

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Cass Lie
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-02-03 08:24:59 UTC
The best response in a pvp thread comes from a dev. And he is also right. /slowclap
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#18 - 2012-02-03 08:27:40 UTC
Go with Dev Nullabor.
Only thing I would add to this all is the standard "Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose" dictum.

o/

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-02-03 09:19:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
The only reason I fly my Zealot more is because it is green and golden, so I named it Golden Shower.

If isk is an issue Navy, if not, Zealot. I see the navy omen as more of a Mission boat.

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impli
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-02-03 09:37:36 UTC
Put enuff dmg and tracking on the zealot and you can sh*** on the drones.. zealot has quite more resistance bonus and dmg bonus .. Its up to you what kind of pvp you want to do ..

Anyway I dont think the dev or any other pilot will post a fitting with a dmg graph compairing to kinds of fighting ... Just go on Sisi and try it out.

kindly impli
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