Ships & Modules

hey everyone, so i have spent the past couple days scouring through forums, websites, and talking on rookie chat about the pros and cons of the different racial ships. As it sadly turns out gallente is very sub par when compared to the 3 other races. Due to issues with tracking speed and accuracy fall of within the optimal weapon ranges (correct?) I was drawn to the gallente by the idea of heavy armor, and lots of drones. I am a big pvper, I am very competitive and loathe being in anything that is sub-par. After much research and with a touch of vanity I have decided to go with the Amarr vessels. Now my question is this, from what I gather will pvping in amarr ships only by successful in battlecruisers and battleships? A lot of negative feed back seems to follow amarr frigates and cruisers. I am very close to gallente frigates V (and i hear the ishitar is a good pvp frigate) so i am not to worried about that, I just want to make sure that A) Ammar is pvp viable and that b) with the new changes that have been made to the hybrid weapon systems, the gallente are still sub-par, thus meaning if i want to be viable in large scale pvp as a BC/BS pilot I need to switch to Amarr on minmitar vessels?

(sorry if confusing, if no one can help i will try to reword)

Actually,
Amarr has a few pretty strong pvp ships, but those are highly specialized in any class other than BSs.

Some good frigates are there, yes, but I would hardly say that someone that can fly T2 frigs with T2 guns is specing in a race. Once you have the support skills, you can do that in 2-3 weeks for each and every race.

The amarr BCs are not great for PvP...yes, harbinger can be ganky, yes it can do quite a few stuff, but most of the times is out-classed by the cane despite the better range, and lately completely outclassed by the Oracle (or any other Tier 3) as a ranged gank ship for larger fleets.

Curse is great at it's niche - again, a rare ship as far as recons go because it's specialized @ a nice and not as a potent tide turner as a Rapier or a Falcon etc. No comments on the extreme niche of the Pilgrim.

Guardian is great - but...it's a Logi...if you were after logis you wouldn't ask.

Legion is meh for PvP, just like the Zealot and the Sacrilege. Great little ships, yet expensive and outclassed by other, greater ships.

BSs are great, especially in larger fleets were medium range and RR combat is an option.

Paragraphs are your friend... mmmkay?

Now then...



That's a lie. Gallente ships have their strengths and weaknesses in various situations as all races do. The reason you hear a lot of crap about them is because Gallente ships make for poor "fleet" ships and have some trouble performing the current FOTM tactic of kiting.

In solo and small gang combat, Gallente are some of the best ships you can have around. There is a reason frigates and some cruisers are afraid of the Taranis (and now the Enyo).



Yes and no. Before the hybrid buff, blasters would have trouble hitting stuff within their optimal range due to way the tracking mechanics work.
This is less the case now and somewhat compensated for with the current buff as blasters have been given slightly higher tracking and deal a bit more damage than before.

The above is not the REAL problem with Gallente ships though. The REAL problem is that you have extremely short range, facemelting weapons on ships that are, for lack of a better term, bulky. Armor plates and rigs reduce speed and/or agility which causes issues with closing range (especially against ships that employ range and/or kiting tactics.




Pro-tip: every racial ship line (and every ship) is "sub-par" at something.



Again... yes and no.

It is true that Amarrian T1 frigates and cruisers are fairly "lackluster" in performance compared to other racial ship lines. Once you get into T2 Amarrian frigates and cruisers you will find that they have quite a few things to offer.

Looking at the bigger picture though... Amarr have their own problems (as Gallente ships do). They tend to be overly specialized in whatever role their bonuses and slot configurations allow (which are generally along the lines of "gank and tank"), they are usually slower and less agile than other ships in their class, and their weapons are dependent on their capacitor (which to safeguard usually requires you to "sacrifice" more versatility/utility).

Look at different individual ships from a "rock-paper-scissors" angle. No one ship or ship line can do EVERYTHING.

gallente is excellent.

- The Curse is one of the bets ships to ever be implemented in the game.

- The Pilgrim is probably one of the best solo ships/mission hunter griefing/WH griefing ships in the game.

- The Geddon rocks for RR and the Apoc is great for fleets.

- The Archon is one of the most solid Carriers in the game with RR bonus and well as energy transfer bonus making it very sought after.

- The Nano harbi is great and is cheap yet fun to fly with great nav/cap skills.

- The Zealot is the best sniping Hac in the game.

- The Sac is great for 1v1 and a tough nut to crack. you will never be primaried in small gang PvP flying a sac.

These are all reasons to go for Amarr. I have eben suing them for 7 years. They're great. but I also love my Drake :)

Aside from everything else this really tickles me.

Vanity? VANITY?

Take a look again at our beautiful Gallente ships then come back and talk about vanity. Though we all have our shortcomings, even the Dominix has a certain rugged charm (and in what it does, it is unmatched).


But aside from that yes, the information you've been given is a bit off.


It's more the style of fighting that you are looking at which differs.

Gallente tends to either use versatile droneships which can spring all kinds of nasty surprises, or use a lineup of various blaster boats which tend to be do-or-die ships. A lot of people (especially in the rookie channel) do not like the die bit there so they avoid Gallente. Many other ships will have much better GTFO ability but facemelting blasters are the way to go if you want to snatch victory from the gaping maw of defeat...

Having said that you better be ready to go down in a blaze of glory. It's guaranteed to happen too.