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Toonichtgut
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-01 07:53:12 UTC
How are people able to afford this? The average player on that forum is going for 7+ Bil. I know everyone isn't a successful trader or runs Lvl 4 missions till they reach that mark. Am I missing some ISK sink or am I just a poor player. I currently have about 3 Bil and that's just been accumilated over years.
Ganagati
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-01 08:02:04 UTC
Some made the money legitely over years

Some sold a character + the money they made in a legit way

Some scammed or pirated the money

Some are rich new players who bought a 15 plex and got themselves an uber character to start the game with.

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Beaches
#3 - 2012-02-01 08:03:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Beaches
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.
Toonichtgut
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-02-01 08:06:08 UTC
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.



I should probably look into that. I currently have four hulk pilots that I just kind of screw around with in corp. I'm just coming back from a break and trying to adjust to the changes. Maybe I'll sell them all and buy a badass toon?
Beaches
#5 - 2012-02-01 08:08:32 UTC
Toonichtgut wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.



I should probably look into that. I currently have four hulk pilots that I just kind of screw around with in corp. I'm just coming back from a break and trying to adjust to the changes. Maybe I'll sell them all and buy a badass toon?


If they have exhumers V you could do that, if they have IV you could still do that but you'll get a lot less. The idea really though is you buy a sort of badass toon, run incursions with him, then if you want you can flip him into an even better one, or you could keephim, doesn't really matter
Toonichtgut
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-02-01 08:11:10 UTC
Beaches wrote:
Toonichtgut wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.



I should probably look into that. I currently have four hulk pilots that I just kind of screw around with in corp. I'm just coming back from a break and trying to adjust to the changes. Maybe I'll sell them all and buy a badass toon?


If they have exhumers V you could do that, if they have IV you could still do that but you'll get a lot less. The idea really though is you buy a sort of badass toon, run incursions with him, then if you want you can flip him into an even better one, or you could keephim, doesn't really matter



Awesome, I appreciate the help!
Doctor Deals
Deals R' Us
#7 - 2012-02-01 08:30:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Deals
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.


wow, i made like 100 mil in an hour in incursions (on average). so you're saying grinding HARD.

10 billion in a week is like 100 hours in eve.. do people really do that? Or have the bots gotten smarter?
Toonichtgut
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-01 08:34:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Toonichtgut
Doctor Deals wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.


wow, i made like 100 mil in an hour in incursions (on average). so you're saying grinding HARD.

10 billion in a week is like 100 hours in eve.. do people really do that? Or have the bots gotten smarter?


How many SPs do you have and what ship do you use/cost of fittings?
Beaches
#9 - 2012-02-01 08:38:20 UTC
Doctor Deals wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.


wow, i made like 100 mil in an hour in incursions (on average). so you're saying grinding HARD.

10 billion in a week is like 100 hours in eve.. do people really do that? Or have the bots gotten smarter?


I said 2 weeks
ChrisDude70
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-02-01 09:29:45 UTC
A few hours of casual ratting in WHs can bring in 100/200m per person if your in a mid size fleet.

Spend a month or two doing that and your set.
Ursula LeGuinn
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-02-01 10:09:40 UTC
Clever traders who know what they're doing can make 500m-1b per day fairly easily, provided they have enough capital, tools that work well for them, and sufficient game knowledge (you have to know what all that crap's good for, where it comes from, and who buys it).

I'm sure it's possible to make far more than even that princely sum, but the more ISK you have to invest, the more difficult it is to turn X percentage profit from it each day.

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Ejit
STD contractors
#12 - 2012-02-01 10:50:23 UTC
Toonichtgut wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.



I should probably look into that. I currently have four hulk pilots that I just kind of screw around with in corp. I'm just coming back from a break and trying to adjust to the changes. Maybe I'll sell them all and buy a badass toon?


With four hulk pilots you could have yourself a nice little bot mining operation. CCP doesn't have a problem with it, why should you Big smile
Toonichtgut
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-02-01 10:52:07 UTC
Ejit wrote:
Toonichtgut wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.



I should probably look into that. I currently have four hulk pilots that I just kind of screw around with in corp. I'm just coming back from a break and trying to adjust to the changes. Maybe I'll sell them all and buy a badass toon?


With four hulk pilots you could have yourself a nice little bot mining operation. CCP doesn't have a problem with it, why should you Big smile


Haha, just not my thing I guess. That and the amount of time you put training in this game. It would suck to loose all of that.
Toonichtgut
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-02-01 10:52:21 UTC
Toonichtgut wrote:
Ejit wrote:
Toonichtgut wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.



I should probably look into that. I currently have four hulk pilots that I just kind of screw around with in corp. I'm just coming back from a break and trying to adjust to the changes. Maybe I'll sell them all and buy a badass toon?


With four hulk pilots you could have yourself a nice little bot mining operation. CCP doesn't have a problem with it, why should you Big smile


Haha, just not my thing I guess. That and the amount of time you put training in this game. It would suck to lose all of that.
Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-02-01 11:05:22 UTC
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.

are they so dumb to not ship scan strangers? maybe thats why then grind incursions. perhaps a newcomers from lineage 2?
Ejit
STD contractors
#16 - 2012-02-01 11:36:30 UTC
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
Beaches wrote:
You can make 10 or so billion in 2 weeks grinding incursions. What I did was bought a 4m SP Mach pilot as an incursion alt, he has like no SP in gunnery I just lie about the fit. It really doesn't matter as the group will carry you. Then you get into shiny fleets (remember keep lying about your fit and skills) then once you have 10 or 20b you can sell him to if you want and have like 23b and buy a character from some lucky guy who's quitting this game.

are they so dumb to not ship scan strangers? maybe thats why then grind incursions. perhaps a newcomers from lineage 2?


Huh? Engrish?

But if I get what your saying, anyone who goes to the trouble of fitting ship scanners to verify Incursion fits would be so unbearably anally retentive with an overbearing attention seeking personality I wouldn't have them in my fleet!
Holy One
Privat Party
#17 - 2012-02-01 12:03:32 UTC
I ran incursions for a week and all I got was 11bn isk. Just sayin.

:)
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#18 - 2012-02-01 12:30:44 UTC
Credit Card.

Get stuff now, pay minimum balance for the rest of your life.
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-02-01 13:27:43 UTC
ChrisDude70 wrote:
A few hours of casual ratting in WHs can bring in 100/200m per person if your in a mid size fleet.

Spend a month or two doing that and your set.



Figure three Nano Ribbons per WH anom at about 8 million ISK a pop. Depending on the WH, C1-C2 can be soloed, you can have anywhere from 6 to as many as 25 anoms that need to be run. Do the math.

Also you can mine high end ores from WHs. ABC which refine down nicely into high mins. But more infrastructure there but its profitable. Also their is PI, people bash the heck out of it, but it is a low impact risk free way to make boat loads of ISK. I've heard of WH folks bringing down 3 billion a month in WH PI alone, another 2 Billion in mins, and easily another 2 Billion in anoms.

If you're hardcore and you have 3 or more accounts 10+ billion a month is totally possible. The key is to go all in on whatever you're doing to make ISK. Leave no alt untrained.

Spend 6d of training and you can have a PI alt in a hauler rocking 4 planets.

PS: Incursions are old news, but I hear LS anoms are another way to make some serious ISK.
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