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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2781 - 2012-01-31 03:15:35 UTC
Just a note to folks that expressed interest in running for the CSM, the VoR will try and create a slate of candidates. If what you see as planks in the VoR party platform match your thinking I encourage to join in the soon to follow discussions and consider running as a VoR candidate. Once we get closer to the elections we'll try some party straw polls to like the most likely to be elected "top few" and then put all our support behind those candidates.

I'm working now to look at ways outside the forums to get the word out about the Voice of Reason.

I may be tilting at solar wind-mills but they look like giants that need a good 'sploding and I'm going to give it my best! :-)

Issler
Aquila Draco
#2782 - 2012-01-31 11:22:31 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Just a note to folks that expressed interest in running for the CSM, the VoR will try and create a slate of candidates. If what you see as planks in the VoR party platform match your thinking I encourage to join in the soon to follow discussions and consider running as a VoR candidate. Once we get closer to the elections we'll try some party straw polls to like the most likely to be elected "top few" and then put all our support behind those candidates.

I'm working now to look at ways outside the forums to get the word out about the Voice of Reason.

I may be tilting at solar wind-mills but they look like giants that need a good 'sploding and I'm going to give it my best! :-)

Issler



+1 for you and your VoR platform.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2783 - 2012-01-31 17:25:33 UTC
i wish you good luck with this,you need it against big alliances csm candidates

R.S.I2014
Dowla Daupor
Deltole Deltole Deltole
#2784 - 2012-01-31 19:12:17 UTC
The CSM is most definitely opposed to WiS, do you people have no memory? It's clear to see why, 0.0 has little use for in station activities, in fact they may actually threaten alliance infrastructure. If players stay docked they aren't farming. Also, 0.0 stations in player sovereignty systems would be rather lonely compared to the constant hodgepodge of activity in high sec and even low-sec stations will be.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#2785 - 2012-01-31 21:38:11 UTC
Dowla Daupor wrote:
The CSM is most definitely opposed to WiS, do you people have no memory? It's clear to see why, 0.0 has little use for in station activities, in fact they may actually threaten alliance infrastructure. If players stay docked they aren't farming. Also, 0.0 stations in player sovereignty systems would be rather lonely compared to the constant hodgepodge of activity in high sec and even low-sec stations will be.


Opposed to WIS ? i don,t think so, Incarna 1.0 yes
maybe incarna 2.5 will have some backup from any CSM6 or 7 or 8 or 9
but i don,t care what the CSM thinks or wants,i care what i want and maybe a lott of other players want.

R.S.I2014
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2786 - 2012-01-31 21:55:45 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
More accurately, the CSM is opposed to CCP tipping huge piles of subscription money down the toilet (like any other player), and spending 5 years of development time to come up with a dirty closet, $70 macro-transactions and a new way to set your graphics card on fire is pretty much a textbook example of it.

If CCP can come up with a usable version of WiS which has some actual gameplay attached to it, then fine, lets have WiS, but so far there's precious little evidence that the feature has any utility beyond selling monocles and beta-testing the graphics engine for a game that now might never see the light of day.


Gawd, please get your facts straight before you post. And while you're at it, try reading the various CCP Dev replies in this thread. I even posted a few of them at the top of this page.

The hugh piles of subscription money wasn't spent on WiS or the NEX and MT. CCP bought out another company (White Wolf) and invested into 2 other projects. Don't try to say CCP spent 5 years focused on WiS either. There was a lot of other gameplay content developed and released just in the past 3 years.

As for graphic cards burning up, boo hoo. I had a 10 yr old very limited computer which was able to run CQ. Granted it was super laggy and took a long time to load due to game settings placed on low but hey, if my old computer could do it, those high priced new gaming computers should have been able to do it. What really boggles my mind is I just bought a new computer for $400 and guess what, it runs excellent with the CQ active and all Eve settings on high.

So you don't like the NEX store, fine. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything from it. WiS gameplay will be incorporated into the game. Unfortunately right now CCP is a little bit gun shy and is busy placating a very vocal minority. Plus they seriously need to continue fixing all the broken unfinished content in the game.

As far as I know, the current CSM has not supported any WiS development and I doubt they ever will. I will place my vote with Issler Dainze and I encourage others to do the same.

itt: people who want a spaceship game to be about spaceships are a 'vocal minority'

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Temmu Guerra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2787 - 2012-01-31 22:06:20 UTC
You do realize with this VoR platform of yours your just going to dilute the voting pool right?
You cant tell CCP at the end of it all to give all the votes from other ppl to one guy that is part of your party. This isnt the primary this is the final race.
Reachok
Doomheim
#2788 - 2012-01-31 22:27:23 UTC
Well, I had a really well thought out, long post in favor of WIS, but when I tried to preview it, it disappeared.

So...

Short version: CCP just do it. Don't try to make it perfect, I already like my avatar. I just want to get out of my cabin.


Thanks,


Reachok

The bad guys went the other way, seriously....
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2789 - 2012-02-01 01:06:37 UTC
Temmu Guerra wrote:
You do realize with this VoR platform of yours your just going to dilute the voting pool right?
You cant tell CCP at the end of it all to give all the votes from other ppl to one guy that is part of your party. This isnt the primary this is the final race.


We are going to try and find the most electable of the candidates that support the VoR platform and ask the supporters of the partty to put their votes to that candidate(s).

But, yes, vote dillution is a concern we need to address.

We will be asking the pilots of Eve the reject a power block null candidate or a high sec sock puppet still influenced by the power block to support the VoR candidate and make sure someone represents the "little guy" and keeps things like ambulation in the CSM discussions with CCP in CSM 7.

Issler Dainze
Voice of Reason Party CSM Candidate
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2790 - 2012-02-01 21:05:46 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
More accurately, the CSM is opposed to CCP tipping huge piles of subscription money down the toilet (like any other player), and spending 5 years of development time to come up with a dirty closet, $70 macro-transactions and a new way to set your graphics card on fire is pretty much a textbook example of it.

If CCP can come up with a usable version of WiS which has some actual gameplay attached to it, then fine, lets have WiS, but so far there's precious little evidence that the feature has any utility beyond selling monocles and beta-testing the graphics engine for a game that now might never see the light of day.


Gawd, please get your facts straight before you post. And while you're at it, try reading the various CCP Dev replies in this thread. I even posted a few of them at the top of this page.

The hugh piles of subscription money wasn't spent on WiS or the NEX and MT. CCP bought out another company (White Wolf) and invested into 2 other projects. Don't try to say CCP spent 5 years focused on WiS either. There was a lot of other gameplay content developed and released just in the past 3 years.

As for graphic cards burning up, boo hoo. I had a 10 yr old very limited computer which was able to run CQ. Granted it was super laggy and took a long time to load due to game settings placed on low but hey, if my old computer could do it, those high priced new gaming computers should have been able to do it. What really boggles my mind is I just bought a new computer for $400 and guess what, it runs excellent with the CQ active and all Eve settings on high.

So you don't like the NEX store, fine. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything from it. WiS gameplay will be incorporated into the game. Unfortunately right now CCP is a little bit gun shy and is busy placating a very vocal minority. Plus they seriously need to continue fixing all the broken unfinished content in the game.

As far as I know, the current CSM has not supported any WiS development and I doubt they ever will. I will place my vote with Issler Dainze and I encourage others to do the same.

itt: people who want a spaceship game to be about spaceships are a 'vocal minority'



Yes, the term 'Vocal Minority' pertains to a small group of players in this game that only want 'spaceship' content developed and nothing else.

CCP advertises Eve Online as 'a massive multiplayer online roleplaying space game'.

That includes everything from FiS to WiS.


'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2791 - 2012-02-03 16:47:16 UTC
I hope that there will be some good news about WiS on FanFest.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#2792 - 2012-02-03 20:16:28 UTC
Or that blog we are all expentantly waiting for from team avatar.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#2793 - 2012-02-03 21:26:52 UTC
Throw WIS in trash can. Im still wanting a Bathroom in my Officer quarters been holding it in for 4 years.!
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2794 - 2012-02-03 22:38:16 UTC
WiS have 60 devs on it:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/ccp/interviews/world-of-darkness-dust-514-update

Big smile


so... development of avatar technology is continuing...
gooood news for WiS... Big smile
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#2795 - 2012-02-03 22:49:46 UTC
Elanor Vega wrote:
WiS have 60 devs on it:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/ccp/interviews/world-of-darkness-dust-514-update

Big smile


so... development of avatar technology is continuing...
gooood news for WiS... Big smile


Sort of an odd intervire that seems to mix up the games interchangably then call the stew of goo Eve. The line "someday I want to pick up a controller in Eve" said it all for me. Continued confusion and spread focus makes me skeptical.

But please let me be wrong and see CCP deliver ambulaton soon.

Issler
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2796 - 2012-02-03 22:56:20 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Elanor Vega wrote:
WiS have 60 devs on it:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/ccp/interviews/world-of-darkness-dust-514-update

Big smile


so... development of avatar technology is continuing...
gooood news for WiS... Big smile


Sort of an odd intervire that seems to mix up the games interchangably then call the stew of goo Eve. The line "someday I want to pick up a controller in Eve" said it all for me. Continued confusion and spread focus makes me skeptical.

But please let me be wrong and see CCP deliver ambulaton soon.

Issler


LOL...
thats marketing guy talking there... so you cant expect that he play the game... :p
and he is beside that new here.

And about ambulation - they are making tech for WoD and they will develop it fully - it would be dumb not to use it.
Some ppl think that if EVE dont have WiS that it will not be developed at all... WRONG.
It will be developed, just EVE would not get anything from that tech and that would be dumb... finance it and get nothing from it.
So... lets use WoD and get all what we can from WoD team.
Lets use all what CCP have for EVE.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2797 - 2012-02-04 01:53:17 UTC
I'd like to see this thread stay unlocked.

If it stays derailed as a CSM platform thread it will be locked.

If all you care about is trying to grab a few votes, then by all means continue. But if you want to see a thread that voices player concerns about the future of WIS stay on the front page, then take the posturing back to JPSC.

Mr Epeen Cool
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2798 - 2012-02-04 04:10:16 UTC
Yeah, I agree. This thread was originally created to show support for continued WiS development.

I hereby go on record as showing support for CCP to continue development of WiS game play content.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2799 - 2012-02-04 04:13:05 UTC
Most people want WiS.
Those that say they dont are just scared CCP is going to abandon pvp or turn eve into WOW, so they simply throw their hands up and say "NO!" without any further consideration

WiS will help expand eve, its audience, and its gameplay options.

If you dont like WiS you can remain undocked like the pro-leet-pvp'er you are.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Ghazu
#2800 - 2012-02-04 04:46:35 UTC
as of now wis is useless, and useless in the foreseeable future.
until ccp figures out what to do with it and release an official gameplay features roadmap that is actually compelling it should just remain on ice.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984