Crime & Punishment

For reasons that will become obvious, this is an alt.

I’m part of a certain alliance that some people might describe as an Eve institution. It’s always operated under certain rules and had a large enough membership not to be at all concerned about incoming wars. In actual fact, they have been largely welcomed as an opportunity to put together fleet operations.

Recently, this has changed though. Attitudes have become stiff and new, very unnecessary rules have been put in place, namely a fine of 500 million ISK if anyone loses a pod in Jita. This is on account of losing 608 ships, including 238 pods in the system in a recent war that has now been extended. Those who don’t pay the fine will be removed from the alliance.

While I do understand this measure as a deterrent, given the nature of what we do, our pilots need Jita. It’s close and convenient and if we really wanted to clear it to make it safe for our pilots, we could with ease. I’m posting this here and not on our own forums because I think this rule is a ridiculous and disproportionate overreaction by the alliance leadership. I do enjoy the alliance and I really don’t want to see it lose members because the powers that be cannot fix this problem in a positive, constructive way. The fine is too harsh and far too much and stinks of profiteering instead of taking proper action.

You should be having this conversation with your ceo, not the miscreants here in C and P.

For 250m I will be happy to escort you in and out of Jita.


EDIT: Use your forum alt to move your jita goodies

The only way said rules will stop is if it becomes far easier to get into a corp.

This is why we need a modular POS and corp system so that potential spiez will have far less power and therefore more will have a chance and competition will remove these rules.

And I have to agree about the neutral alts. Going to jita with your main is bad news.

For anyone interested, OP's main is in RvB.

Although I can see the reasoning behind the new Jita rules, imo if I was in RvB leadership I would just simply /care. To my mind, RvB has always been about straight-up, fun pew rather than what the alliance KB looks like. It's not like the Jita rules will change anything anyway since I bet most of the people dumb enough to lose 2-bill-ISK pods in Jita don't read the (RvB) forums.

vOv

You've answered your own question

Use a hauling alt, its really not that hard

DERP

The rule was intoduced to reduce the number of war decs, by removing the source of them, ie. the MORONS who decide that jita 4-4 is perfectly safe to sit outside while wardeced, after being told over and over again that it isn't and to use an alt/courier contract, after hearing all the other idiots whining on corp chat about how they got killed a few minutes ago, and (best of all) after they got podded the previous day doing the exact same thing.

By forcing the idiots to either quit or stop being idiots, the free kills will stop and the '1337 pvpers' who do the camping will have to either fight on RvBs terms (and lose, horribly ) or drop the dec.

To be fair, not all of them sit still. The ones that turn up for a fight actually tend to be the ones who can get their pods clear. Shame there hasn't been more of those ones.

The fine doesn't apply to those who are part of a fleet who goes after the campers.

Since when did RvB become serious business. Shame!

PVP corps just hate it when other people try and PVP them, so obviously they have to do something to try and cut down on the unwanted PVP.