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Idea for a PLEX sink - extra skill queue on same account.

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Argyle Jones
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-01-30 18:20:56 UTC
Hello EVE!

So, from what I understood of the controversy about AUR and the Noble Exchange last summer, CCP was looking for a way to sink some of all those PLEX that are floating around in the game, as if there's too many of them they become a financial liability for the company. Rather than barbie clothes, gold ammo or such other things, here's an idea that could sink some PLEX that is not quite so controversial, and may actually prove quite useful for a lot of players:

Allow people to spend PLEX to activate an extra skill queue on any account.

The main benefit ot this idea is that it lets you train trade / cyno / pos gunner / etc alts on your existing account without having to now permanently run an additional account, or having to do a character transfer later. You can sink a couple of plexes onto your main and train your otherwise useless alts to perform some basic functions without detracting skill time from your main and without having to create a completely new account.

It's a small thing, but the added flexibility would probably appeal to many, it would likely sink some PLEX and nobody loses.

Just an idea,

/Yargle






Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#2 - 2012-01-30 19:37:57 UTC
Or you could sink some plex into a second account and activate your second skill queue on a toon you can play simultaneously if you so desire?

Or do you propose that one plex is equal to more than thirty days skill queue time on your second character? In which case this would probably result in less plex being activated, rather than more.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#3 - 2012-01-30 21:10:01 UTC
Argyle Jones wrote:
The main benefit ot this idea is that it lets you train trade / cyno / pos gunner / etc alts on your existing account without having to now permanently run an additional account, or having to do a character transfer later.


Do you see the part here where you explain exactly why your scheme is not actually a PLEX sink, because you save the PLEX of an account transfer or permanently running a second account?

There are a number of these suggestions on the forum at the moment, people who woke up one morning thinking it would be great if there was a way to avoid the expense of a single account, or avoid stopping training on their main. I don't train my main much anymore, and I'm not dying. It can be done.
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-30 22:06:08 UTC
That prevents CCP from getting the 20 USD fee for transferring your alt character to your main account once you are done training them. I went through this with a Miner alt I had to start on a second account so I could train simultaneously with my main, when He could fly a Hulk I transfered him and canceled the second account.
Argyle Jones
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-01-31 10:04:47 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Or you could sink some plex into a second account and activate your second skill queue on a toon you can play simultaneously if you so desire?


Yeah, but not everyone wants to run 9 accounts so they can have 8 cyno / trade / pos gunner / etc alts. The idea to activate a second queue on your main is so you can train it here for as long as you add PLEX to it and then stop, without the hassle of a character transfer and without the need to continuously run more accounts than you already have.

Zyress wrote:
That prevents CCP from getting the 20 USD fee for transferring your alt character to your main account once you are done training them. I went through this with a Miner alt I had to start on a second account so I could train simultaneously with my main, when He could fly a Hulk I transfered him and canceled the second account.


That's exactly the point. You sink some PLEX now and don't have to waste $$$ on character transfers later.

Mara Rinn wrote:
Do you see the part here where you explain exactly why your scheme is not actually a PLEX sink, because you save the PLEX of an account transfer or permanently running a second account?


I wasn't aware that you could use PLEX to pay for account transfers? Is this true? If you can then my idea just makes that much more sense. Why make a system where you have to train on 2 accounts and later transfer your character with a 10 hour waiting period and all the hassle that comes with the transfer of deleting and bioprocessing a slot on your main, etc if it simply amounts to the same thing in terms of both in-game and as a PLEX sink? Why not give people the flexibility of being able to run two queues on the same character without all this hassle?

Also, I am pretty sure that if you could run 2 or 3 queues on your existing main and alts you'd see quite a few people training those cyno / gunner skills, so I am fairly positive that it would sink more ISK than the current system.

/Yargle
Taint
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-31 10:46:22 UTC
Would agree that Eve need to get some of the isk in the game out.
But by getting to train an ekstra toon on your acount is fail, want to have more chars then one, then pay for an ekstra acount.
Argyle Jones
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-01-31 14:19:40 UTC
Taint wrote:
Would agree that Eve need to get some of the isk in the game out.
But by getting to train an ekstra toon on your acount is fail, want to have more chars then one, then pay for an ekstra acount.


Care to share your thoughts why it's fail? Or is the argument simply that it's fail because you say so? If you read the full thread you would see that idea here is to give people an easier and more flexible way to train a utility alt. Currently what people are doing to get 'utility' alts that can drop cynofields, fire POS, do research, etc. etc. etc. is either:

1: Create a new account, train a character up to do what you need it to do and then make a character transfer to an existing account.
2: Stop training your existing account character for as long as it takes to train the utility alt.

With this idea you can spend a PLEX to train on the same account. It is just a more flexible system, I simply cannot fathom why anyone would be opposed to having more flexibility in how you manage your account?

/Yargle