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Toshiroma McDiesel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-30 02:42:56 UTC
So Moon Mining isn't real mining? no ship required? I've only been here almost a year, and mainly high sec...so not up to speed on everything here.

But is Moon mining just another form of PI?

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-01-30 02:47:29 UTC
Actually moon mining was here first so PI is just another form of moon mining Bear

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#3 - 2012-01-30 02:51:30 UTC
And it uses POSes instead of little control center thingies

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Toshiroma McDiesel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-30 02:59:15 UTC
So I take it they are non-gank-able/non kill-able?

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2012-01-30 03:01:43 UTC
Yep. Take the PI system:
Extractor > Processor > Storage > Processor > Storage > Market (or whatever)

Spread it out over a bunch of POSes, and you've got moon mining.

FYI: It is not a solo activity, and cannot be done in .4 or higher security.

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Renarla
#6 - 2012-01-30 03:02:04 UTC
They're pretty gankable all right. Just requires bigger guns.
Richard C Hoagland
Anarchos Syndicate
#7 - 2012-01-30 03:03:35 UTC
Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:
So I take it they are non-gank-able/non kill-able?


They can be destroyed, but this isn't anywhere near as quick as ganking a hulk.
Toshiroma McDiesel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-01-30 03:12:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Toshiroma McDiesel
hmm....in a way, I find that kinda silly, like PI. If I have to play aligning every 2 mins, while I dump ore to orca (max mining means dumping every cycle) while hitting D-Scan, and people get to set up "Mining" that is total afk, I find that it does annoy me somewhat. (I do not like the PI system, but see that there might be some hope with Dust, not that I think it will actually fix that)

(edit) That also clears up where I've read one Goonwaffe state (I think it was Laddy Harlot at the time) caught anyone from his corp mining he would gank them himself, and another Goonwaffe posters stateing (can't remember his name, sorry) that they mine 61+ moons.

Does that mean Moon Mining isn't actual mining? (again with the noobish question)

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-30 03:21:34 UTC
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#10 - 2012-01-30 03:25:58 UTC
- Anchor and online POS
- Online moon miners
- Connect to silos
- Unload silos and fuel POS regularly
- Defend with a supercap fleet as needed

Simplified, but that's pretty much it...

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-30 03:28:50 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
- Anchor and online POS
- Online moon miners
- Connect to silos
- Unload silos and fuel POS regularly
- Defend with a supercap fleet as needed

Simplified, but that's pretty much it...


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Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-01-30 03:31:59 UTC
Yes. CCP realised that asteroid mining is completely pointless and have vowed never to make the same mistake again. So every form of resource gathering introduced since then has been automated passive resource gathering with the player's role being focused on setup, transport and management, which does make far more sense.

But don't worry, miners, I still totally respect your play-style of doing a mindless repetitive task that is better accomplished by bots.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2012-01-30 03:38:59 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Yes. CCP realised that asteroid mining is completely pointless and have vowed never to make the same mistake again. So every form of resource gathering introduced since then has been automated passive resource gathering with the player's role being focused on setup, transport and management, which does make far more sense.

But don't worry, miners, I still totally respect your play-style of doing a mindless repetitive task that is better accomplished by bots.


You mean anoms?

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Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-01-30 03:41:37 UTC
I do personally consider ratting to be a form of mining.
Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-01-30 03:42:10 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Yes. CCP realised that asteroid mining is completely pointless and have vowed never to make the same mistake again. So every form of resource gathering introduced since then has been automated passive resource gathering with the player's role being focused on setup, transport and management, which does make far more sense.

But don't worry, miners, I still totally respect your play-style of doing a mindless repetitive task that is better accomplished by bots.


Hmm. Gate camp much? that's a lot of sitting around not even mining or anything useful right there. Null sec makes mining veldspar look like NASCAR these days. Not that I like NASCAR, but you get my point.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#16 - 2012-01-30 04:02:27 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
I do personally consider ratting to be a form of mining.


Fair enough. All the PvE crap CCP adds get's boring after half a dozen runs.

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#17 - 2012-01-30 06:14:15 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
I do personally consider ratting to be a form of mining.


Me too. I also see blobbing as killmail farming so I gets it's all just Farmville in space.