Player Features and Ideas Discussion

But then the thread would be somewhat confusing since your original post would be missing.

A second class of marauders is completely redundant, your chief motivation seems to be that you want to see different colour schemes rather than any gameplay factor, and your design concept could have fitted on to the back of a postage stamp. The way that you design a new range of ships is to think of a niche in the game that needs filling, then design the range to fit that niche. Throwing new ships at the game because you want slightly different versions of something we already have is pointless.

Tech 2 tier 3s will probably appear one day but it'll be when there's a good reason for them to exist and there are plenty of PvE capable battleships already available.

I made a thread on this a while back. New marauders is a YES, having them part of tiers is a NO. Tiers result is useless ships. New marauders MUST be as good at their specialized role as existing marauders are at theirs or it'll be battle cruisers all over again.


New marauders would follow existing marauder standards: 4 hardpoints and a 100% damage role bonus/ tractor beam bonus, crappy sensors, same resists, ect.. (I'm not saying that marauders don't need to be looked at as a whole, but that's another topic entirely.)

Khanid Torp Abbadon: (Does NOT fill same niche as Golem, notice the missing range bonus. Less range, more tank.) Would give Amarr pilots something good against angel cartel, unlike now where the solution is to train winmatar.

7.5% armor rep bonus
5% explosion velocity bonus
7.5% target painter bonus
5% cap recharge bonus

Roden Drone Hyperion: Notice the lack of gun damage bonus. It's 4 turrets would be unbonused(other than the 100% hybrid turret bonus. It may need a slightly nerfed powergrid to keep its dps in line with other marauders.) Manufacturing corp is debatable here, Creodrone and Duvuolle Labs already have battleships, so I chose roden.

10% bonus to drone damage/hit points
10% web bonus
7.5% armor rep
7.5% drone MWD speed (or drone control range range?)

Ishikone Hybrid Rokh: would give Caldari gunboat pilots something decent battleship sized to train for, since ALL of their faction battleships (and pirate battleship) are missile boats. It does not fill the same niche as the kronos, notice the range bonus instead of tracking. Would also be slower than golem, since golem is intended for close range.

7.5% shield boost bonus
10% hybrid turret range
5% hybrid turret damage
7.5% target painter (maybe web, could be helpful with blaster fits.)

Core Complexions Arty Maelstrom: Vargur needs serious fitting mods for arty, its really an autocannon ship. This new ship would be much slower and have a larger sig than the vargur. Notice the lack of a tracking bonus and falloff bonus. It makes the vargur a better choice for autocannons.

7.5% shield boost bonus
5% bonus Large projectile turret damage (or rof, whichever is better for arty)
10% large projectile range bonus (doesn't do much for autocannons, but is helpful for arty)
7.5% bonus to target painting (would complement arty well, since its low rof makes killing small ships a pain.)

Honestly, I think the Golem being used as a torp boat doesn't make too much sense to me. Caldari tend to prefer guided missiles, so the Golem should be geared more towards cruise missiles. It should have a launcher rof bonus. This would also make a more clear and definite line between the Golem and the Khanid's torp Abaddon.