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Non-Cloaky Proteus - AB or MWD?

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Renarla
#1 - 2012-01-29 08:50:55 UTC
I'm pretty torn between the two. AB will allow for speedtank, MWD allows for better range closing. Or should I try to cram a 100mn AB on there to get the best of both worlds?
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-29 08:56:26 UTC
MWD/scram/web and/or cap booster (depending on the subs if you have 3 or 4 mids.)
Renarla
#3 - 2012-01-29 09:00:07 UTC
Right now I have MWD/Scram/Web/Booster.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-29 10:58:01 UTC
you should only have 3 mids, they should be mwd, scram, web. optionally swap web for cap booster but i wouldnt recommend it.
AB is not an option on a proteus. ever.

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Renarla
#5 - 2012-01-29 19:52:38 UTC
I feel like the cap booster is well worth trading a low for a mid. Care to give reasons why the extra low would be more beneficial?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-29 23:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
you just dont need a cap booster on a proteus.
my proteus is cap stable running everything, including the mwd and void, so cap in never an issue until you get neuted.
it's not a ship you should ever be flying into hazardous environments without guardian support so you should have cap logi available anyway in case you do get neuted.

fitting 4 mids means youre using the gravi cap prop sub which actually makes you a lot less cap stable running the mwd, not to mention a lot slower and have a lot less dps.

i fly a proteus a lot, i have never been capped out in it to my recollection, apart from in c6 sleeper sites while taking heavy neut agro from the sleepers.

ofcourse, i am assuming youre buffer fitting a fleet/gang prot.
if youre active tanking or solo fitting it, yeah you need a cap booster.
even if you do want the cap booster, drop the web for it, not a low.

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Renarla
#7 - 2012-01-29 23:48:02 UTC
Yeah, I'm solo/small gang fitting it. (No Logi support) I'm not worried about being capstable running the MWD, I'm more worried about being cap stable running the repper.
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-01-30 00:41:48 UTC
If you're fitting a repper, then you'll definitely want a cap booster.

Better question is; why are you fitting a single repper for solo?
Renarla
#9 - 2012-01-30 01:06:20 UTC
Single repper with a plate. From my experience a large buffer combined with reps can actually be much more effective than one or the other in a situation where your outnumbered.
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-01-30 01:27:31 UTC
Fair enough, I suppose. I guess I'm just not used to the idea of active Protii.

As the poster above suggested, I'd drop the web for a cap booster rather than a lowslot for a cap booster.
Renarla
#11 - 2012-01-30 01:31:11 UTC
I dunno. A web seems pretty essential for a blaster boat, but a second damage mod would be pretty swell. I'm no EVE Math Warrior but I would think the extra damage applied from being able to hit the target better with a web might even compete with the damage provided from a second damage mod, but of course I could be completely wrong.
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#12 - 2012-01-30 01:31:37 UTC
Can some one post some fits: I was messing around with this one - prob wrong but it looks nice for a big frog...

Subs: A. Aug, CPU, Hybred, Localized, Power Core... am I stupid wrong or did I come up with a good one?
Bibosikus
Air
#13 - 2012-01-30 01:36:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Bibosikus
Renarla wrote:
Single repper with a plate. From my experience a large buffer combined with reps can actually be much more effective than one or the other in a situation where your outnumbered.


Better than 100k+ EHP and 1,000+ DPS? I can't see how Shocked

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Renarla
#14 - 2012-01-30 01:37:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Renarla
This is what I've been messing with:

Using my skills (Support skills mostly IV and important ones V) With LG Slaves you get:

225 DPS tanked
114k EHP (121k with Defensive Systems V)
633 DPS with 5% Damage Implant (Dirt Cheap)

Quote:

[Proteus, Proteus]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Federation Navy 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-01-30 01:37:57 UTC
Obviously ANY active tanked ship needs a booster.
that said, youre probably better off with a myrmidon if youre active tanking a gallente boat...

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