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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#341 - 2012-01-27 06:44:51 UTC
http://www.evemarketeer.com/statistics/regions

Is showing strange data in the average age column.
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#342 - 2012-01-27 07:53:33 UTC
Yeah, I'd seen it, but I could not come up with a satisfactory reaon for why it was happening, so I deferred fixing it till the weekend Blink

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Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#343 - 2012-01-28 10:44:56 UTC
When uploading could we get more Market groups? When I only want to upload PI goods then I need to make a custom group and there are so many items that it takes forever to create it.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#344 - 2012-01-28 11:02:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Callean Drevus
Sure! I just don't know what people generally want, so it's a bit difficult to come up with logical global groups. I'll see if I can add a global PI group.

UPDATE: PI group added.

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Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#345 - 2012-01-28 14:44:12 UTC
Thank you Big smile

Quote:
I just don't know what people generally want, so it's a bit difficult to come up with logical global groups
I understand. So this means that every one has its own item priority and the global groups in the current state cant please every one.

Could this approach be more user friendly:

[ ]All items
└─[ ]Blueprints
└─[ ]Drones
└─[ ]Ship Equipment
└─[ ]Manufacture & Research
___└─[ ]Components
___└─[ ]Materials
______└─[ ]Ice & Ice Products
______└─[ ]ORE & Minerals
______└─[*]Planetary Materials

As illustrated above I open any subgroup that I want and mark it with *. All marked groups/items would then be included in the upload process. And a select all and deselect all buttons would also be cool Big smile And at the end there could be a Save custom group button to save it under a custom name. Something like this would make it easier to add many items under the same Market group to the custom group.

PS I rly love how your site is growing in visuals and in features.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#346 - 2012-01-28 14:56:16 UTC
Yup, that would be easier indeed, but it would also be more intensive in terms of resources and time spent developing it.

As this is the first time someone actually asked for an addition global group, it hasn't been very high on my list of priorities Blink though someone did suggest something like that before.

Anyway, I'll get around to doing it 'sometime'.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#347 - 2012-01-28 21:09:37 UTC
Just uploaded unified uploader 0.5, which has support for not deleting cache files, and a few tiny other fixes. I hope you will use another program to delete the cache files though, or the unified uploader is going to eat you disk alive (and upload much slower, because it's ploughing trough thousands of files to find one that is actually useful) :P

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6ie
The Kiwis
#348 - 2012-01-29 01:39:35 UTC
Nice, you rock - thanks!
FB Tuz
Through the Looking Glass
#349 - 2012-01-29 10:49:15 UTC
Quite the same... You rock, dude ! Unified uploader 0.5 fixed the KeyError I was having with 0.4b (well technically it still shows in the log, but the uploader runs flawlessly).

Could the market scanner page display what region is currently selected for the upload suggestions ? I often scan while I haul, and I couldn't find at which frequency (or after how many items) the webpage refreshes itself and queries again my location. If at least the detected region was shown, I could refresh manually the page when I see myself in a different region.

Thanks !
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#350 - 2012-01-29 10:55:21 UTC
Ah, it adds new items about every 15 items. However, it doesn't really matter whether it is uploading in the exact region it thinks it is uploading.

I could explain it in more detail, but it'd be incomprehensible (believe me, I just tried writing it down, and it failed). Suffice to say that while the upload page thinks you are in a different region, the eve client knows the exact region very well and therefore uploads correct data.

That said, having region detection on the uploader page is a good idea, if just to give you an idea of where you think you are currently uploading.

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FB Tuz
Through the Looking Glass
#351 - 2012-01-29 11:37:43 UTC
Yeah, 15 items is nice ! EMD scanner was giving you 100 items at once, which was a tad too many (Kudos to Kallahar though, I only switched to EMK recently - and still have all my scripts API calls to convert...). As for the scanner, it would just help to upload the right old-updated items, but indeed it feeds cache files that are correctly region-stamped (ofc I checked on the uploader log and the region ID is the right one).

I'm really impressed Callean... If only I managed to run through my todo lists and backlogs half as quickly as you, I'd be very happy ! (and my users too :P)
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#352 - 2012-01-29 11:58:33 UTC
I installed the updater, it uploaded stuff once but now it says:

"When patching EVE, CLOSE THIS PROGRAM! Re-run when patch finishes."

too bad I am not patching anything.


Another thing, what's the Upload ID for? I put some random crap and it uploaded prices, did I have to put in something particular instead?

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Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#353 - 2012-01-29 13:45:02 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Another thing, what's the Upload ID for? I put some random crap and it uploaded prices, did I have to put in something particular instead?
That might be your username What? or maybe not. Anyway use the Unified uploader 0.5 istead of 2.6.1EM Uploader.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#354 - 2012-01-29 14:31:13 UTC
Lolz, yeah, it sais that every time it starts up, just to remind you :) (the old uploader at least)

I would also reccommend using the unified uploader 0.5, as that one works much better than the previous one.

The upload ID (or key) is the key the website gives you to identify the uploader of the data with. In the case of EVE Marketeer, it is shown on the market scanner page (when logged in). Or in the account menu (also when logged in :P).

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#355 - 2012-01-29 16:00:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Callean Drevus wrote:
Lolz, yeah, it sais that every time it starts up, just to remind you :) (the old uploader at least)

I would also reccommend using the unified uploader 0.5, as that one works much better than the previous one.

The upload ID (or key) is the key the website gives you to identify the uploader of the data with. In the case of EVE Marketeer, it is shown on the market scanner page (when logged in). Or in the account menu (also when logged in :P).


Ah, I registered myself with Firefox, went to the account page and only have seen

"Your upload key is BLAHBLAH" without any mention to the ID.

Since the uploader I used runs outside of EvE, maybe that ID should be visible in the account page with a regular browser.


Also, when I go to the downloads link I see both programs with no mention to "deprecated".

In fact, few days ago a guy actually posted on the MD forum about he using "EVE Marketeer Uploader" for the automated market windows browsing, he did not mention about the Unified updater.

You might want to flag the obsolete software in some way.

Edit:

I find the "delete cache files" option breaks the EULA, because it actively interacts with the client files.
I am somewhat perplexed because I know CCP operates with the grace of an elephant in these cases.
Reverence seems to be officially approved, is this software CCP checked as well?


Edit 2:

There's a little typo in the Endpoints editor.
When you edit the Endpoint data type, the last type reads "Univeral" but I suppose it should read "Universal".


Edit 3:

How do I stop the IGB uploader? It seems to scan the selected stuff and then cycles again endlessy.
Does closing the IGB window do it or will I lose the uploads?

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Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#356 - 2012-01-29 16:45:44 UTC
To stop it you need to click the same icon that you used to for start. Its a Play/Pause icon but the visibility is rly bad while active. If you open the unified uploader then you can see that it is uploading whenever it gets new data. No uploaded data will be lost if you close the Browser, Close the EVE client, throw the PC out of a window.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#357 - 2012-01-29 17:15:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Invictra Atreides wrote:
To stop it you need to click the same icon that you used to for start. Its a Play/Pause icon but the visibility is rly bad while active. If you open the unified uploader then you can see that it is uploading whenever it gets new data. No uploaded data will be lost if you close the Browser, Close the EVE client, throw the PC out of a window.


Thank you.


I have another suggestion.

Make the visual cues about the currently selected IGB upload feature (orders vs history) MUCH more evident. The currently selected one should look brigther or something, as of now they look almost the same.


Edit: and another:

Please add a checkbox to not cycle uploads. Expecially history ones.

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Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#358 - 2012-01-29 18:11:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Callean Drevus
Ok, let me clear up a few points.

The Unified Uploader is preferred, but not yet fully tested (although functional), that's why I haven't deprecated the other uploader yet.

The 'upload key' is for all intents and purposes identical to the 'upload id'. Any reference to 'upload id' is purely accidental and should be 'upload key'. However, I believe EVE Marketdata calls it Upload ID, and EVE marketeer calls it upload key.

This software uses reverence, and deleting cache files can hardly be seen as a criminal act. It isn't criminal if I delete the EVE client folder either.
In any case, as far as I know nobody was ever banned for deleting cache files, and multiple uploaders have had that feature for a very long time.

I'll take a look at the points you mentioned.

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Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers
#359 - 2012-01-30 14:07:24 UTC
Regarding the credits awarded for uploading data: Does it only work with the unified uploader or does the IGB also provide credits? I wonder as I have only been uploading using the IGB because I play on Linux and I haven't been able to run the unified uploader yet (haven't done much effort for it though).

Currently my credits balance say's I have 0.00 credits, but at my account info it mentions that I have uploaded cache/logfiles.
Callean Drevus
Perkone
Caldari State
#360 - 2012-01-30 20:56:33 UTC
You cannot upload with just the IGB. The IGB page merely provides the infrastructure of the cache scraper (Unified Uploader) to do it's work. I think it should be possible to get the unified uploader working on Unix. It isn't a program with a lot of dependencies I think.

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