EVE General Discussion

Hi,

a question to the CCP art team. The V3 project is done for Caldari and Gallente. I like it alot for most of the ships. But some of them look quite a bit 'stale' and don't really fit to the new ones like the Raven, Naga or Tengu. Imo this isn't a problem of textures and shaders. The models of some ships are rather blocky or just strange. IMHO some examples are Moa, Badger, Condor, Griffin.

My question: even if the retexturing for Caldari is finished..is it still planned to replace some of these older hulls with new, shiny models?

Thanks for any hint.

I know this. Raven was my example of some very good looking ships.

Oh, my bad lol

Ya I could see them redoing all the other ships that they havent touched since the Tyrannis' scorpion

There was a leaked thing about a new Condor model a couple months back actually =D

Edit: here http://i.imgur.com/z3WQf.jpg

Bump. Asking kindly for dev response.

I dare you to touch the Griffin and Moa lines. They are last remains of Caldari design mindset "it doesnt matter what it looks like, as long as it works in vacuum of space." Imho nerfing scorp to be symmetrical was bad enough. I have nothing against updating shaders or upping textures to higher res, I do however have everything against radically changing the silhouette of existing ships.

I got afraid of the new direction with tier 2 bc's, when new sleeker and more polished "nice looking" ships came out from all 4 races. This is supposed to be game about crude space combat, where speed, utility and turret hardpoints decide outcome. Not "who has the most symmetrical and polished paintjob of the month" contest. I was willing to let it slide, but when they started to change and *fix* existing silhouettes I knew I had feared rightly.

The thing is that people get attached to the ships they fly, now Moa or it's variant Eagle sees very little use, very very little. But still it can raise uproar when someone suggest changing it's visuals around. Both for and against people go "oh god it's horrible" "it's great." That is proof of good design because it has people form strong feelings about it.

Imho if art department wants to reskin en-masse, they should start kicking the "paintjob" station service forward, where you can pay npc's isk (isk sink) and be able to choose new ship skin for your existing one. Vanilla raven with golem textures etc is easy to implement, but making the necessary filler of new variant of paintjobs could keep them very busy for years. The good side? Nobody would be forced to new looks, people could *choose* to pay small along sp skillbook amount of isk to enjoy it.

CCP should read this a few times and heed it.

I think they are more likley to work on the models for entirely new ships than bother re-constructing older models.

But I agree, how some of these models ever got through into the game is beyond me. Several people must have had a meeting looked at the ship designs created saw the imicus model of the moa and said "oh yea, this looks good, go with that! The players are going to love it"

So, I think its just something to do with Icelandic people tbh, I suspect the ginger gene has something to do with.

Speaking of V3 skins and Ravens, I notice the new skin for the Raven looks pretty low-res, all the windows and stuff are blurry. This is also visible to a lesser extent on other Caldari ships. It's kind of annoying, because the older skins looked much sharper.

Seems art team has 3 years of work and 1 year to do it all in

Sigh... to bad I cant help.

I know this may be a pointless request... but could you pass along a request to the art/modeling teams that quite a few of us would like to see the carriers and supercarriers to be made... "larger"? I still find it a bit insulting that my Thanatos is only slightly larger than my Hyperion... and that the Nyx is the same size as the Moros.