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Toshiro GreyHawk
#481 - 2012-01-27 08:03:11 UTC


Recognizing that it is only a name change, my reaction can best be summed up as:


GIVE ME MY COLD GAS ARC JET THRUSTERS BACK YOU ******* MORONS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#482 - 2012-01-27 08:03:25 UTC
Sol Gemini wrote:
... I apologize for being arrogant ...


No Sir. You are NOT arrogant. You hit the point!Attention
Unfortunately not all changes from CCP are always improvements. So please react on our response developers of CCP. Even new players do not find all last changes helpful.
Dragonzchilde
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#483 - 2012-01-27 08:04:25 UTC
CCP Arrow wrote:
We are working on a Unified Inventory system for Crucible 1.5 where all items, ships and other inventories are grouped together into one window. This will remove the need to add Ships and Items to the Neocom when docked and introduce a new Unified Inventory option that will work like other regular icons in the Neocom.

We are also redesigning all UI Icons, making them more readable. Hopefully that will eliminate the need for text description that is always visible to simplify and save space (you still get it in tooltip).


Translates as:

We are wasting more resources on things that didn't need changing in the first place.

Can't believe it is that hard to use your resources where they are needed.

eg: I posted a gazillion bug reports on the fact that your kill mails are still generating the wrong info.

- like less people on it than were actually there
- the sum of the damage inflicted does not equal the hp notifications
- the damage inflicted is less than a bare hull of the ship

I guess sorting that is too much work?
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#484 - 2012-01-27 08:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
CCP Arrow wrote:
We are working on a Unified Inventory system for Crucible 1.5 where all items, ships and other inventories are grouped together into one window. This will remove the need to add Ships and Items to the Neocom when docked and introduce a new Unified Inventory option that will work like other regular icons in the Neocom.

We are also redesigning all UI Icons, making them more readable. Hopefully that will eliminate the need for text description that is always visible to simplify and save space (you still get it in tooltip).


Hope is eventually nice, but not effective! DO NOT HOPE!! ASK DAMIT! You hope and think .. but it is only getting worse. Twisted
I need the TEXT description.
I do not want to wait till Cruicible 1.5, we have 1.1 now. How many month to go till I can use the UI normaly again? Handle this crap as BETA , switchable in the ESC-menue as you have promised, and roll back to the old neocom and trash the silly names of modules and ammunition with it.

Sorry for this many editing. But when I am in rage I do some mistakes. But I try to correct them as soon as possible. Not like CCP. Hoping and thinking. LOL. What a sh!t! Evil


AND HELL NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Are you nuts? I do not wish that you squeeze hundreds of windows in a group! I want to be able to drag and drop items into SEVERAL!! windows. Meta 4 missionloot from ship into containers,ammunition from hangar into ship, new drones from stationhangar into dronebay; other modules from station hangar into fittingscreen and back and reprocessable into stationhangar to reprocess. How should this be possible if you have all sh!twindows of eve grouped in one menue without a acceptable sorting? Heh? It seems that you are unable to develop a interface for humans. Sad
Sangard
Bunny Industry Group
#485 - 2012-01-27 09:09:22 UTC
I have lost 5b isk because of the format changes. Guess thats a super localization feature but for me it was just some kind of a scam.

I have changed one of my market orders yesterday and typed in 3000.02 isk. I'm doing this fast as allways cause i'm used to it. But my english client (located in europe) doesnt like (.) point anymore. He expected a (,) comma. What happend? Yeah, my marked order was 300002 isk. Great, it was immediately fullfiled. I paid 5b isk instead of 50m isk.

Well done CCP! Guess it's time now for another game.

cu and hf!
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#486 - 2012-01-27 09:13:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
So... after played enough time to get accustomed to the new features...


I am still strongly of the opinion the old UI was tangibly more effective.

Worse looking indeed, without frills, but it did the job.


Except for the stilish looks and compact chat list, I cannot find a single new neocom feature that works better than the old.

- Have to find and click the same icons 50000 times instead of just restoring easily accessed minimized windows.

- The character picture is invisible, the name hidden. Sucks for multi-boxing, sucks for multi-clients.

- Date won't show up, makes it harder to organize fleets with international players.

- Can't tame the blinking. If I disable it for the chats then it won't blink in the other buttons (where I want it).

- Blinking is annoying and only works when it wanta. I have to open the wallet 100 times a day because only some times it will blink.

- Undock button is uncomfortable to reach and WAY too small.

- Much used items and ships buttons are WAY out of reach and stupidly close to the undock button. This feature alone makes me question its developer's sanity.

- One would think that you'd remove minimized windows to replace with a better mechanic. But no! Now I get 4-6 identical blue (!) shaped icons that I have to constantly check to see WTF they refer to.

Also, I just minimized a show info about a system after minimizing a show info of an item. The solar system info just disappeared, no way to bring it back!

- On my industry characters I need to constantly swich the science & industry windows tabs, minimize and restore it 30 times a day. I want to strangle someone now, because I have to unhide the neocom, wait till it appears, find the little icon and redo the slow open window operation again and again and again and again and again and again...

- Why didn't you preserve the old buttons layout and placement? It was exactly as I needed it.
Now instead I have to wade thru menus sub menus super menus just to find and drag on neocom the stuff I use every day since years.

- mail is not blinking any more. I did not disable it, just checked.


Basically it looks like CCP took the "fix the many little annoying things" playerbase suggestion too far and now adds stuff for the sake of adding it and show that "we work a lot on our game".

But with a neocom like this, it reeks of old "lets put something half assed out, we will fix it in the next years".

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#487 - 2012-01-27 12:52:33 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
How comes that if I open the People & Places window and dock then undock, the windows closes?

It's utterly annoying, I have bookmarks I use all the time and I want the window to stay open all the time.


I'd like the Assets window to stay open.
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#488 - 2012-01-27 16:49:58 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
How comes that if I open the People & Places window and dock then undock, the windows closes?

It's utterly annoying, I have bookmarks I use all the time and I want the window to stay open all the time.


I'd like the Assets window to stay open.
Liked and a +1.

My assets window refuses to remain open across three clients. Why?

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PJRiddick
CherryHill
#489 - 2012-01-27 21:52:56 UTC
So then i take it theres a system wide CRASH problem again?

-=+>xXx<+=-
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#490 - 2012-01-27 22:16:56 UTC

CCP Punkturis -

DO you think that awesome "Compact Member List" for chat channels can be applied to the guest tabs in stations? (Probably one click for all stations you dock at) - would make looking at the guest lists load faster in, let's say, JIta. ;p



Where I am.
Neo Agricola
Gallente Federation
#491 - 2012-01-27 22:53:58 UTC
Game crashes during jumps.
Jumps with JB
Jumps with Stargates
Jumps with Capital ships and cynos.

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Zleon Leigh
#492 - 2012-01-27 23:01:55 UTC
Sangard wrote:
I have lost 5b isk because of the format changes. Guess thats a super localization feature but for me it was just some kind of a scam.

I have changed one of my market orders yesterday and typed in 3000.02 isk. I'm doing this fast as allways cause i'm used to it. But my english client (located in europe) doesnt like (.) point anymore. He expected a (,) comma. What happend? Yeah, my marked order was 300002 isk. Great, it was immediately fullfiled. I paid 5b isk instead of 50m isk.

Well done CCP! Guess it's time now for another game.

cu and hf!


Petition. CCP has mercy on these kind of errors. And since this was DIRECTLY due to gui behavior change because of a patch they darn well should be accommodating in this case.

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Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#493 - 2012-01-27 23:20:03 UTC
Neo Agricola wrote:
Game crashes during jumps.
Jumps with JB
Jumps with Stargates
Jumps with Capital ships and cynos.


Yes. All over The Forge. I commend the awesome updates, but this crash glitch is really annoying!
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#494 - 2012-01-28 03:57:19 UTC
Neo Agricola wrote:
Game crashes during jumps.


Yeah, I had (3) crashes this evening - go to jump through a gate and the "EVE client has stopped responding" dialog comes up in Win7 64bit.

No real rhyme or reason to it that I've detected so far.
Ms Lynn
Bane of Angry Puppies
#495 - 2012-01-28 04:35:03 UTC
Bloated People in station and bloated agents in station is very annoying. any way of scaleing it back down ,
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#496 - 2012-01-28 07:46:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
My Journal button does NOT blink, when I have completed a mission. Please bring this back! X
As stated before; I will do no further Bug reports anymore if you have such incompetent hunters in your team who, after 3 month, ever claim: "This is no bug."

[sarcasm]
This new NeoCrapcom is really better than the last one. New people will find a smoother way into EvE.
[/sarcasm]
Lucas Quaan
DEMONS OF THE HIDDEN MIST
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#497 - 2012-01-28 08:35:23 UTC
Lord Haur wrote:
How do I prevent an icon appearing there for every window type I open?

So, yeah, I'm not going to read all of this, but could we please have it so that only minimised windows show on the neocom? I don't need an icon there for my cargo or the scanner when they are open. Other windows like overview and selected item behaves like you would expect so can the rest please follow suit?
PJRiddick
CherryHill
#498 - 2012-01-28 16:40:48 UTC
Tis sucks....


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"SPLAT"
"CRASH!"

what sup with this CCP!
Penny Ibramovic
Wormhole Engineers
#499 - 2012-01-28 18:26:09 UTC
Great strides have been made in quality-of-life improvements! Totally awesome.

Now how about letting w-spacers change T3 subsystems at their towers, instead of having to open wormholes, be vulnerable through several zero-sec systems with no local channel, and find a way out to overpopulated empire space just to change a system on a ship that originates in w-space? That would be super.
Dirael Papier
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#500 - 2012-01-28 21:06:53 UTC
Still haven't flown a T3 yet, but I also imagine being able to swap subs at an Orca would be helpful as well (unless this is already possible).