EVE General Discussion

The reason, as a PvP player, that I dislike suicide ganking is that there are no risks involved that are not calculated for the attackers. They know how much they will lose, how much they will gain, and what will be involved along the way. I don't want to see suiciding removed... far from it. I want to... spice it up a bit for other players, and maybe open a new line of work.

A good Samaritan rule with CONCORD. If a player is under attack by a suicide group, that suicide group becomes KOS for everyone around until their ship is destroyed. As it stands, if a freighter gets attacked by a group of pirates and I step in to help, the "police" will say "lol, idiot. You attacked someone without provocation". 0_o Really? I'm trying to save some hauler from his definite demise and I'm getting told I'm a criminal?

Highsec PvP is too limited because CONCORD gets in the way of actively participating to protect others. People in the same group as a freighter, hired to protect it, cannot do anything when a suicide group attacks because they would just get blown up themselves. This change would allow a new line of work in highsec- escorts. =D Got a freighter you want to see moved from point A to point B? We'll help take down any suiciders that cause you problems!

I dunno, seemed fun to me.

I'd say no unless the gankers pod were to be a viable target. As it is the way that you describe it, all it does is give the gankers more pew targets, now if there was a very good chance that they would lose their pod as well as any implants they might've had in that clone, then I'd be all for it.

What could you possibly do in the 5 seconds before Concord shows up? Repping the victim won't do ****. Attacking the attacker won't do **** except get you on a km.

The text isn't wasted, my entire point of the post is because I believe 100% what you are saying and want to see that changed. What I'm aiming for is to try to make it PvP- to add risk that isn't calculated to the equation so that the gankers suddenly have a chance for everything to blow up in their face and them walk away as hurt as their target would be. THAT is what PvP is about- a chance that either party could be ruined, and you never know which. Suicide ganking removes that entirely and guarantees that you know exactly what will happen.

no insurance to people who are concorded

ships with good cargo will be suicide ganked and looted as before
suicide ganking random ships and newbie players will always be detrimental.
atm if you gank a hulk you lose a very small amount of isk if you loot yourself+ the dead guy.
this should never happen.

no i wasn't ganked, i dont even mine, but its stupid that i can use a cheap ship and kill and expensive ship with almost 0 penalty.

Might not even have to be that elaborate. All you need to do is bait with a ship and leak that it's supposedly loaded with high isk cargo in the correct manner. You might not get many biters, but any fool can be piloting an expensive gank fit.

You know that it will make no differences to gankers as to how much insurance isk they can get back

It's this stupid topic yet again.
Same crap, different day.

Ok my bad, sorry.

Same crap, different thread.

Endless vomit and rehash, Pvp, Ganking, Ganking, Pvp, Pvp, Ganking, Ganking, Pvp.
Rinse and repeat.
EvE is more than this.

Have concord sue the ganker for the isk value of the victims destroyed stuff, if he haz the isk or not, if he ganked outside of a wardec in hisec.

Negative wallets will solve this problem.