EVE General Discussion

I am very surprised to see the huge influx of hate on the new item names. I personally think it's a long overdue and very necessary change that will hopefully spread to almost every item category in EVE eventually. While not everything is in dire need of change (Blaster naming conventions are pretty decent, for example, as are Railguns, ACs and Arties) some are absolutely senseless and mind-boggling at best - Lasers, anyone?

So tell me, what don't you like about the new names? What did you like about the old names?

There is a bit of a risk in assigning names so arbitrarily, not that they chose particularly bad names for the prop mods, but it shows the collision in mentality people have and that we take for granted.

Where it's especially dangerous is giving linearly descriptive values when something can't be linearly quantified. It's bad enough to say T2 is "best" because obviously it's not, or isn't always, and the Y-T8 MWD was a good example of how specific names are better for specific qualities.

When you're dealing with multiple variables that don't all go in the same direction (more gooder) you can't say anymore what's best, what's worth the most, and rarely can you say what's the most useful. This is something that needs to be kept in mind. The missiles is sort of a cosmetic and convenience thing, I'm indifferent about the change because the important specific bits are still there.

Even lasers are safer to put in some kind of order because the values follow almost a perfect curve and there could even be some benefit in ordering crystal types. Railguns and blasters, though, each size trades things off a little differently and their current order by caliber is misleading. I could even argue that it would be more beneficial to chop up blasters and rails like the lasers are now and instead order lasers by their size since the values that are exchanged are in proportion to each other.

While I didn't use missiles a lot, I knew the "basics" about them... and it was easy enough to get what people needed fi I was running to Jita or something

e.g. -- get us 100k Widomaker Rage. OK, get there, search for "Widowmaker", get the missiles.

now you can't say that -- it has to be MUCH more specific, since the name crosses many missile types. (rocket, missile, heavy missile, assault missile, torpedo, etc).

e.g. -- "get us 100k Mjolnir." OK, um ... what kind? "I dunno, whatever goes in a drake." WTF does a drake use? "well, depends on if you want to engage at long range or not" Ugh, I don't know ... [corpie] was the one asking for them. "Oh, get him the Mjolnir (whatever size)". Thanks ... this was so much easier with different names.

the same name made sense with the other ammos because it was all "Antimatter" or "Phased Plasma" or "Multifrequency" -- you just appended a size, and were good to go.

e.g. -- "get me 100k large antimatter." OK, will do.

Before renaming I would open market, search for "Scourge"

After renaming I open market, search for "Trauma Heavy"

At least missile users are still slightly better off than turret users who have to look for "antimatter charge m"

My main complaint is the lack of novelty.

I don't dislike them. But I told myself this morning that I was going to post in every stupid thread about them.

So, here I am...posting.

Mr Epeen

To me at least it's an issue mainly because I see no real advantage to them being changed, but when I patched and logged, I felt like I had just started Eve again. So they aren't really a terrible system, just an unneccessary one.

I don't really dislike them, not enough to post loads of whinage threads anyway. The new names do seem dumbed down though, I cannot imagine the level of stupidity and ignorance needed to mix the old names up or be unable to click "show info" and read the description.

I am far from the sharpest knife in the box but to be that dumb must really be something, how does somebody go through life like that? Things like putting shoes on the right feet must be difficult, the world must be a confusing place for such people.

Some of us are just too old school....'Kentucky Fried Chicken' old school... we don't want no 'Kitchen Fresh Chicken'. If we resist we can get back our 'Kentucky Fried Chicken!'

WHO IS WITH ME ?!?!? (falls over dead from heart attack)

Why was it done in the first place anyways?

If you're gonna rename missiles, at least rename it like Kinetic Rage Torpedo, Heat Precision Missile, etc

Save me the time of having to figure out what the hell is suppose to be the new name...

Point the first --> Any of us can also do that (see: BoB getting disbanded by the Goons, or any of the other territory wars over the years). It's not exactly the same as CCP resetting everything, but it does wipe out peoples' work.

Point the second --> I've yet to find a ship that takes "years" to make. Maybe a few weeks to a month (depending on where you're starting in the production cycle).

@ Aphoxema -- notsureifserious