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CCP - More T3, BC-Pirate/Navy BC's

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Marexlovox
Ziontech Industries
Hull Penetration
#1 - 2012-01-26 02:54:22 UTC
When is it going to happen? Crucible II?

BC Navy Tier 1 and 2 or 3 maybe?

Pirate BC's

More Tech 3 like Frigs/BC's and BS's?

Anything on This?

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obgyn kANOBI
Insurgence.
Tactical Narcotics Team
#2 - 2012-01-26 03:10:47 UTC
CCP Please heed our words MORE SHIPS !!!!!!!!
Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#3 - 2012-01-26 03:13:07 UTC
Tier 1 and 2 BC are already broken. Say no to pirate BC!

And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.

Diana Valenti
Disposable Spies
Honorable Third Party
#4 - 2012-01-26 14:07:02 UTC
Caldari Navy Drake, jarrr.
Arbiter Reformed
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#5 - 2012-01-26 14:07:54 UTC
Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:
Tier 1 and 2 BC are already broken. Say no to pirate BC!

Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-01-26 14:09:36 UTC
Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:
Tier 1 and 2 BC are already broken. Say no to pirate BC!

Agreed. What's the use of 1,000 different ships if only 10 of them are used by 95% of the players.
Bane Loppknow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-01-26 14:12:15 UTC
Blood Raider Prophecy. I want it.
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-01-26 14:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
You need to say something more specific than 'CCP pls give us moar stuff'. If it's simply a case of you wanting to add ships because they'll be better than what we have now, and which cost more, then you have to consider the impact on other existing ships in the game.

What the hell are you going to do with a T3 Battleship? Use it in a wormhole? Should we add more classes of wormhole to give it something to do? It's just the same gameplay as we've got now but with more numbers on the end of everything. Plus the only place you see T2 Marauders are in highsec flown by mission runners, why do they need an even better boat?

Actually there's also the TEST Alphafleet Morale Kronos, but that's very much an exception to the rule.

Edit: Inappropriate part removed, CCP Phantom.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-26 15:15:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
I would be happy with more lower tier ships.
A second navy frig that is below the current (put it with the rest in the FW LP store)
More than just one Tier of destroyer
The missing "pirate"ships with the gall/amarr and cal/min pair ups.
New Pirate ships for frig and cruiser with lower meta and skill need(frig that needs 1/1, cruiser that needs 1/1)
^^ seem doable and would be fun for some or all.

BUT
navy/pirate BC/destroyer- How? I mean what skills make them bonus with? How do you make it balanced?

T3 frig/BS-How do you do this and not end up with broke? will frigs have less subsystems? Will they all use the same regardless of size? How will a BS with 6 bonuses that cost as much as a super cap work? How will the frig not just make all other frigs useless?
^This stuff just seems way to far fetched.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Teowulff Odinson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-01-26 15:43:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Teowulff Odinson
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
I would be happy with more lower tier ships.
A second navy frig that is below the current (put it with the rest in the FW LP store)
More than just one Tier of destroyer
The missing "pirate"ships with the gall/amarr and cal/min pair ups.
New Pirate ships for frig and cruiser with lower meta and skill need(frig that needs 1/1, cruiser that needs 1/1)
^^ seem doable and would be fun for some or all.

BUT
navy/pirate BC/destroyer- How? I mean what skills make them bonus with? How do you make it balanced?

T3 frig/BS-How do you do this and not end up with broke? will frigs have less subsystems? Will they all use the same regardless of size? How will a BS with 6 bonuses that cost as much as a super cap work? How will the frig not just make all other frigs useless?
^This stuff just seems way to far fetched.

I think we'd better do with "equal tier" ships.

Say more ships with the same amount of slots but with different bonusses and specializations.
Think speed, weapon platform, mid/high slots, sensor strength, resist bonusses and the like.
That way we would have a range of ships that all have their roles. It's frustrating for instance that the Stabber has 2 less slots than the Rupture. With an equal amount of slots if would be a very nice alternative.

The same applies to every tier ship, most are outperformed by the (usually) highest tier ship of that class because the other tiers only have a very limited niche role, like the Maller (PvP - bait), Blackbird (PvP - cheap ECM), Osprey (intermediate mining ship). While other ships have no real role after new players have used them as an initial upgrade and are a very rare sight in EVE (most lowest tier frigs, cruisers, BC).

So I'd say make all ships a viable alternative among the same class and stop making more and more ships redundant with newer, better ships.
It would make EVE a better game.
Dielax
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-01-26 15:51:51 UTC
strategic battlecruiser thx.
Traiori
Going Critical
#12 - 2012-01-26 16:48:45 UTC
More t3 ships sound good. I get a lot of guys going 'why are you training subsystems for one single ship?' Even worse when I have to cross-train to get tengu/loki booster alt for example.

Similar kind of idea to t3 cruisers: can flip around and specialise (or not) as pilots choose. It would take careful balancing, but it'd be nice. Along with a change to how subsystems work. Let us change them in space.

Alternatively, remove racial subsystems, and turn them into a single set of tertiary skills. And reimburse us all for our cross-training.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2012-01-26 17:11:17 UTC
Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic and polite, thank you.

Moved from General Discussion.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#14 - 2012-01-26 17:14:22 UTC
1500 DPS brutix hull with 90% webs and 120k ehp with slaves please.