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Quick Concept: Non-Destructive CONCORD Law Enforcement Method

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Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-24 00:24:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Amaroq Dricaldari
Basically, what CONCORD does is instead of destroying your ship, the target it and perform every method of electronic warfare possible on it, and then they force-eject your pod from your ship and prevent you from boarding ships until the countdown completes. Everytime you undocked with a ship, they would do the same thing to that ship.

Obviously, you wouldn't get the same treatment if you were in Low Sec or you had a low Security Status.

Just a thought to make the game more believable.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-01-24 00:31:01 UTC
...Why?
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-01-24 00:45:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Amaroq Dricaldari
Think about it. If you murdered a man in real-life with a gun, would the police blow up your car with a Rocket Launcher, or would they impound your car and send you to prison?

Or perhaps you could replace 'murder' with 'drug trafficking', take your pick.

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-24 00:54:33 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
...Why?

Gank a hulk, have an alt board the ganking ship, wait 15 minutes, repeat.
Aethlyn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-01-24 01:00:58 UTC
If you shoot at them or other people, they won't ask questions and just shoot back. Think about it.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-01-24 01:10:01 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Think about it. If you murdered a man in real-life with a gun, would the police blow up your car with a Rocket Launcher, or would they impound your car and send you to prison?

Or perhaps you could replace 'murder' with 'drug trafficking', take your pick.


If I shot someone, I'd probably get shot before I did it again.

With this system, I'd never lose a ganking ship again. Literally zero risk not suicide ganking? Yes please.
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-26 00:30:10 UTC
Obviously, if you had a low security status or repeatedly did it, then it would be a problem.

And CONCORD would impound the ship and you would have to pay a fine to pay it back, depending on how much you spent on it and how serious the offence was and how low your security status is. If you have a low enough Security Status to get a bounty, they would still just blow you up. If you commited too many crimes, they would still blow you up. If you attacked a CONCORD officer, they would blow you up. If you used a Smartbomb on someone or if you podded someone, they would blow you up. If you simply attacked someone without having permission to do so, they would capture and impound your ship.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-01-26 01:24:20 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Obviously, if you had a low security status or repeatedly did it, then it would be a problem.

And CONCORD would impound the ship and you would have to pay a fine to pay it back, depending on how much you spent on it and how serious the offence was and how low your security status is. If you have a low enough Security Status to get a bounty, they would still just blow you up. If you commited too many crimes, they would still blow you up. If you attacked a CONCORD officer, they would blow you up. If you used a Smartbomb on someone or if you podded someone, they would blow you up. If you simply attacked someone without having permission to do so, they would capture and impound your ship.



So...

Why?

If they're going to kill your ship most of the time anyway, what's the point?
Amaroq Dricaldari
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-01-26 01:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Sometimes, do things on accident. A friend of mine was invited to a PvP recently, but they forgot to canflip the person, so when they attacked CONCORD swarmed them and blew up for ship. Or you might be doing a Courier Contract and end up transporting illegal goods without knowing it.

I also think that it would be more realistic, more believable.

Edit: Off topic part removed, CCP Phantom

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Dog Savalas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-01-26 06:55:05 UTC
So... Forgetting to can-flip before attacking someone out of the blue...
Like a poorly prepared, premeditated crime, does not warrant punishment by Concord?

Plus, as the impounding of the ship scales with it's worth, a permanent impound (destruction) is the same...

So I'll stick to rule number 1:

Don't fly ships you can't afford to loose

or

Fly PVP in frigates until you can afford bigger ships---
Isabelle Evotori
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-01-26 08:58:10 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Think about it. If you murdered a man in real-life with a gun, would the police blow up your car with a Rocket Launcher, or would they impound your car and send you to prison?

Or perhaps you could replace 'murder' with 'drug trafficking', take your pick.



you are not murdered. your ship is destroyed. your clone would be intact. and if so. you're just a clone. so no harm done. it is only inconvenient.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#12 - 2012-01-26 09:37:23 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Think about it. If you murdered a man in real-life with a gun, would the police blow up your car with a Rocket Launcher, or would they impound your car and send you to prison?


Imagine CONCORD less as a "modern police force" that issues citations for merely pushing people and more of a "grizzled 'old west' sheriff" that enforces destruction with destruction to make a point on where the "line" is... and nothing more (because "boys will be boys").

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Sometimes, do things on accident. A friend of mine was invited to a PvP recently, but they forgot to canflip the person, so when they attacked CONCORD swarmed them and blew up for ship. Or you might be doing a Courier Contract and end up transporting illegal goods without knowing it.


"Ignorantia juris non excusat."

And I don't think the customs police can see through courier wrapping paper.


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Mag's
Azn Empire
#13 - 2012-01-26 09:37:40 UTC
Just because a friend didn't can flip before firing, or someone you know wants to haul illegal stuff, doesn't mean your idea is a good one or needed.

I say, no thanks to your idea as it's a bad one.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#14 - 2012-01-26 12:46:25 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
...Why?


Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
...because in Real Life......


Stopped reading here..... stupid idea.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#15 - 2012-01-26 13:01:16 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Think about it. If you murdered a man in real-life with a gun, would the police blow up your car with a Rocket Launcher, or would they impound your car and send you to prison?

Or perhaps you could replace 'murder' with 'drug trafficking', take your pick.

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-01-26 13:14:30 UTC
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Sometimes, do things on accident. A friend of mine was invited to a PvP recently, but they forgot to canflip the person, so when they attacked CONCORD swarmed them and blew up for ship.

How about, instead, there should be a big flashy warning telling you what you're about to do and what the consequences are?

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Or you might be doing a Courier Contract and end up transporting illegal goods without knowing it.


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STOP BEING OBLIVIOUS TO THE WORLD AROUND YOU. Get your mind out of the criminal world of null-sec for once.

You can't put illegal goods into a courier contract, into any contract in fact.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2012-01-26 15:52:53 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:
Sometimes, do things on accident. A friend of mine was invited to a PvP recently, but they forgot to canflip the person, so when they attacked CONCORD swarmed them and blew up for ship.

How about, instead, there should be a big flashy warning telling you what you're about to do and what the consequences are?


You mean like the one you get for unprovoked aggression in hisec that apparently everyone shuts off the first time it pops up?

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Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#18 - 2012-01-26 15:57:39 UTC
Exploding ships is a good thing. There needs to be more opportunities to remove resources from the game not fewer.

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2012-01-27 11:33:36 UTC
Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic, thank you.

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