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EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Feedback

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Victor Fenris
The Rookie Initiative
#381 - 2012-01-25 13:55:18 UTC
Please put the date back with the time on the neocom calendar button!

Individual blink option would be nice too....

Thx

Victor Fenris

To the victor goes the spoils.... To Victor, not you!!!!

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#382 - 2012-01-25 14:07:31 UTC
Lunce wrote:
For instance: Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters 1MN


well, tbh, even this is not neccesary. Someone who flown frigs and cruisers for a while, would know that cold-gas items are frig items, if he does not he is simply a total noob and should loose something. Thats not that hard at all to know that Y-T is cruiser, catalyzed cold-gas is frig and quad-lif is BS MWD, ffs.
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#383 - 2012-01-25 14:11:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
CCP Punkturis wrote:
backtrace wrote:
I am very pleased to see that my bug about Cyrillic font is (mostly) fixed. Good job! I still want to whinecomment on some shapes, should I re-open it?


just create a new bug report where you specify your issues and the person who fixes the font (who by the way does not read Russian) will get it Smile


If your idiotic bug hunter team do not claim, that it is an intended feature. My last bugreports where answered from such uneducated persons who wont give their names. They will know why they hide their names. Roll

No knowledge of EVE but a bug hunter. Shocked
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#384 - 2012-01-25 14:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
Callidus Dux wrote:
No knowledge of EVE but a bug hunter. Shocked


some similarly uneducated douchebags, who think the old naming was too complex, seem to control the art department as well.
CCP is on the way down the hill.... :(
Axl Borlara
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#385 - 2012-01-25 14:17:09 UTC
Naraphim wrote:

2 - I cannot remove or move EVERY icon on the neocom. (You have teased us with a partial implementation of a promising idea.)


Unfortunately the bold part above sums up and awful lot of things in Eve... Sad
Axl Borlara
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#386 - 2012-01-25 14:20:02 UTC
samivael wrote:

The default blue 'i' icon for opened windows isn't very informative. An example is the scanner, could the icon not show the scanner icon like on the hud rather than the 'i'?


The scanner can't be used in station. And when you are flying, it has it's own button on the HUD (don't take that away!).
So why does it appear in the neocom bar at all?
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#387 - 2012-01-25 14:40:29 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
backtrace wrote:
I am very pleased to see that my bug about Cyrillic font is (mostly) fixed. Good job! I still want to whinecomment on some shapes, should I re-open it?


just create a new bug report where you specify your issues and the person who fixes the font (who by the way does not read Russian) will get it Smile


If your idiotic bug hunter team do not claim, that it is an intended feature. My last bugreports where answered from such uneducated persons who wont give their names. They will know why they hide their names. Roll

No knowledge of EVE but a bug hunter. Shocked


no need to be rude and use such words about my coworkers Smile

it seems backtrace got his bugs solved so something must be done right here..

if you read his comment again he says "]I am very pleased to see that my bug about Cyrillic font is (mostly) fixed. Good job!".

did you also have an issue with the Cyrillic font?

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis

TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#388 - 2012-01-25 14:46:03 UTC
I'm really diggin' the Role bonus (50% less MWD sig bonus) thing for AF's

[b]THE KING OF EVE RADIO

If EVE is real, does that mean all of us are RMTrs?[/b]

Lunce
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#389 - 2012-01-25 14:54:53 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
Lunce wrote:
For instance: Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters 1MN


well, tbh, even this is not neccesary. Someone who flown frigs and cruisers for a while, would know that cold-gas items are frig items, if he does not he is simply a total noob and should loose something. Thats not that hard at all to know that Y-T is cruiser, catalyzed cold-gas is frig and quad-lif is BS MWD, ffs.



What many people fail to keep in mind is that CCP is trying to strike a balance. EVE is a unique and challenging game. There are areas of the game, however, where the game is challenging simply because interfaces are hard to use. As technology improves, and time is invested into making the player interface with the game more intuitive, and therefore faster and easier, more people will be attracted to, and stay with the game.

Related to this is the naming conventions of modules. As I mentioned in my previous post, the traditional names add a lot to the flavor and uniqueness of EVE. But to most people who are trying out EVE for the first time....it's a game. They want to jump in, play, and not be overwhelmed with information and interfaces that are not intuitive.

I'm fairly sure that we can strike a balance and cater to most of the veteran and new players by keeping the traditional names, and tacking on an intuitive designation at the end of the module name. I.E.: Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters 1MN

By taking an elitist stance and looking down on 'neubs', saying; I toughed it out, they should too, does not serve the interests of a healthy, growing EVE universe.
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#390 - 2012-01-25 15:04:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Callidus Dux wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
backtrace wrote:
I am very pleased to see that my bug about Cyrillic font is (mostly) fixed. Good job! I still want to whinecomment on some shapes, should I re-open it?


just create a new bug report where you specify your issues and the person who fixes the font (who by the way does not read Russian) will get it Smile


If your idiotic bug hunter team do not claim, that it is an intended feature. My last bugreports where answered from such uneducated persons who wont give their names. They will know why they hide their names. Roll

No knowledge of EVE but a bug hunter. Shocked


no need to be rude and use such words about my coworkers Smile

it seems backtrace got his bugs solved so something must be done right here..

if you read his comment again he says "]I am very pleased to see that my bug about Cyrillic font is (mostly) fixed. Good job!".

did you also have an issue with the Cyrillic font?


Sorry CCP Punkturis. But I have the right to be rude against incompetence. If you want to read all of my impressions of the bug hunter team please read here.

Especially my second post. If someone do not give the name within his stupid answer, you can easy think about why. Because he is wrong and fears my petition concerning incompetence. Bug hunters should be CCP employees. Not 2 weeks old players.

Oh.. nearly forgotten. Bring back the old neocom and names of modules please.
Callic Veratar
#391 - 2012-01-25 15:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Callic Veratar
I like the new Neocom, but it's only half way to what I'd like it to be.

Ideally, ALL of my old static menus will become part of the neocom (excluding the overview, I suppose).


  • Add a station services button to the E menu to take care of all that stuff. (LP, Insurance, Bounty, Reprocess, Repair, Med, Re-customize, NEX, To CQ, Guests, Agents, Offices, and Corp Hanagr)
  • The "in station" buttons could be greyed out when in space or in a station that doesn't support them.
  • When I have cargo, drones, or scanners active and on the neocom, treat it like an E menu instead of a window toggle. Click to show contents, when you click somewhere else, it auto-hides. I hate the sheer amount of window clutter.
  • Same deal with the Ships and Items (and the future united thingy). Less windows, more menus.
  • Let me mess with the structure of the E menu.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#392 - 2012-01-25 16:06:55 UTC
CCP Arrow wrote:

The ability to turn all blink in the Neocom off was in the old Neocom and is in the new one as well. The thing people are complaining about is that the Chat Icon blinks even if you have the Chat window open, which is a defect. And people also would like to be able to turn blinks off individual icons, which is something we will look at but can't be done in a hotfix.


The old "blink" was a simple highlight. Subtle, unobtrusive and not a constant itch in your field of vision. Not the constantly moving "flash" of the new neocom.

I dare you to get a few flashing LEDs and tape them to the side of your developer's monitors. See how long you can go before someone commits acts of violence.
Marek Shields
Gravometric Invention Manufacturing Partnership
#393 - 2012-01-25 16:25:30 UTC
Can the Devs please start putting the patch notes on the 'Patch Notes' RSS feed again? That feed hasn't been updated since Incarna 1.1 and browsing through the Dev Blog looking for the notes can get annoying rather quickly.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#394 - 2012-01-25 16:26:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Lunce wrote:


What many people fail to keep in mind is that CCP is trying to strike a balance. EVE is a unique and challenging game. There are areas of the game, however, where the game is challenging simply because interfaces are hard to use. As technology improves, and time is invested into making the player interface with the game more intuitive, and therefore faster and easier, more people will be attracted to, and stay with the game.



So, is WoW challenging? It has unique names attached to epic drops after all.









Oh wait, putting dumbed down names in EvE simplifies EvE as much as putting simpler labels makes Excel 2011 easier to use.
Eikelhaven
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#395 - 2012-01-25 16:32:03 UTC
I have two bugs to report in Crucible 1.1. (Should I also submit formal bug reports for these?)



1)

There is a graphics bug when jumping through a wormhole. As you jump ships through a wormhole, the wormhole's available mass is reduced, and the wormhole "shrinks" two times before it finally collapses.

The first shrink occurs when the wormhole goes from "This wormhole has not yet had its stability significantly disrupted" to "This wormhole has had its stability reduced, but not to a critical degree yet." The second shrink occurs when the wormhole goes from "This wormhole has had its stability reduced, but not to a critical degree yet" to "This wormhole has had its stability critically disrupted by the mass of numerous ships passing through and is on the verge of collapse."

When these shrinks occur, there is a graphics animation in the game where the wormhole in space visibly wobbles and shrinks in size, followed by a "shrunken-wormhole" sound effect.

Now, here is the bug. Before Crucible 1.1, if you are piloting a ship that jumps through a wormhole and causes it to shrink, you would see the wormhole shrink animation on the wormhole before you sessioned changed to the system on the other side. After Crucible 1.1, this is no longer the case. The pilot causing the shrink does not see the shrinking animation.

This may seem like a small issue, and maybe it is just something new to get used to. But, it is a change, seems like a bug, and I thought it worth reporting.




2)

After Crucible 1.1, it seems no longer possible to apply remote armor reps to NPC rats or Sleepers.
Defier Orilis
Defiance Eden Initiative
#396 - 2012-01-25 16:48:55 UTC
Why is CCP trying to simplify what made EVE what EVE is?

I understand, it was hard to get it but once you get it, it felt so good. It was the EVE charm.
I want the EVE charm to come back with the original names. DANG!
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#397 - 2012-01-25 16:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
DEFIER ORILIS wrote:
Why is CCP trying to simplify what made EVE what EVE is?

I understand, it was hard to get it but once you get it, it felt so good. It was the EVE charm.
I want the EVE charm to come back with the original names. DANG!


We could ask for 2 different EvE clients.

Regular version and WoW version, the latter with stylized waving teddy bears, very large fonts, voiceover on buttons, moddable UI that auto-plays when you mouse hover on stuff.
El'essar Viocragh
Meltdown Luftfahrttechnik
#398 - 2012-01-25 16:56:15 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
Sorry CCP Punkturis. But I have the right to be rude against incompetence. If you want to read all of my impressions of the bug hunter team please read here.

Especially my second post. If someone do not give the name within his stupid answer, you can easy think about why. Because he is wrong and fears my petition concerning incompetence. Bug hunters should be CCP employees. Not 2 weeks old players.

Oh.. nearly forgotten. Bring back the old neocom and names of modules please.

Cali, you have whined about every single line of every single patchnote in the last five years.
You would rage if CCP changed the HP of an Infrastructure Hub by literally 5 HP - without having ever left highsec.

For years now it is beyond my comprehension why you still play. There is literally nothing in EVE that you like or ever liked for that matter.

@CCP Punkturis: sorry about him.... one of those ashamed for someone else moments. Sad
And btw, any info on the weird skill progress statusbar that was brought up a few pages ago?
eaterofcheese
The Society of Odd Fellows
#399 - 2012-01-25 17:03:14 UTC  |  Edited by: eaterofcheese
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
The old "blink" was a simple highlight. Subtle, unobtrusive and not a constant itch in your field of vision. Not the constantly moving "flash" of the new neocom.

I have to say I for one find it easier to ignore the new highlight compared to the old one.

Quote:
See how long you can go before someone commits acts of violence.

I thought committing acts of violence was part of the point of EvE? Lol
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#400 - 2012-01-25 17:06:56 UTC


Alright, about the new "online/offline" notifications...

I dig these, but I find that they don't pull my attention like the old ones used to do - i'm not saying I want the old icons back, I just think these need a little touch up to make them stand out a bit more.

The flatness really makes it hard to spot them amidst all the EVE Shininess, and to pick them out from the red/blue/corp standings squares.

Where I am.