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Simple exploration idea
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Mordissian
Federal Reserve Bank of New Eden
#1 - 2012-01-25 06:26:22 UTC
Signatures that can be probed out well beyond the celestials of a system. At present exploration is somewhat predictable so its not really exploration. These sigs would lead to 10/10s and other high ends sites and wormholes, the rest of the sigs remain as they are near celestials. For example levels 8, 9 and 10 sites would be found in deep space, with 10's being out the furthest.

Explorers would now need to randomly scan a whole system out to say 100 AU (or more) away from celestials, without knowing if there is anything actually to find in that system, but if they happen to chose the right system and probe hard enough they could hit gold.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-01-25 06:30:43 UTC  |  Edited by: mxzf
So you want to bring back deep space safes? Most serious explorers in a ship that can fit one (especially T3s) already do an initial scan with DSPs to determine the type. All this would do is bring back deep safes and make it so you MUST either use a T3 or have a probing alt, which would just hurt anyone who was trying to solo explore 0.0 in an Ishtar or something like that.
Isabelle Evotori
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-01-25 06:45:38 UTC
Mordissian wrote:
Signatures that can be probed out well beyond the celestials of a system. At present exploration is somewhat predictable so its not really exploration. These sigs would lead to 10/10s and other high ends sites and wormholes, the rest of the sigs remain as they are near celestials. For example levels 8, 9 and 10 sites would be found in deep space, with 10's being out the furthest.

Explorers would now need to randomly scan a whole system out to say 100 AU (or more) away from celestials, without knowing if there is anything actually to find in that system, but if they happen to chose the right system and probe hard enough they could hit gold.



I like your idea.

+1
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-25 08:06:17 UTC
Deep Space Probes have a 256AU scan radius... :P
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-01-25 09:32:47 UTC
St Mio wrote:
Deep Space Probes have a 256AU scan radius... :P


This. I don't have anything against improving exploration and making it seem more like actual exploration, but all you would achieve is make people drop deep space probes instead of normal ones. To me that isn't any more interesting than the current system is. Just a few more new sites to probe out. It's always niceto get more content, but basicly it's the same old thing.
Mordissian
Federal Reserve Bank of New Eden
#6 - 2012-01-25 10:19:04 UTC
Yes you would either need to drop the DSP down to 128AU or have the sigs further out for it to be feasible or some kind of penalty on these type of sigs. Its a long train to use DSP's as well.

The main point of my idea is adding some randomness to "exploring".
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-25 10:42:31 UTC
You know what would make exploration fun? Something UNKNOWN to explore.

Wormhole? Type the number into Doltan, get all information about the starsystem because it was exported in the API.
Anomoly/site? look it up on Eve survival.

There's no such thing as exploration, it's just another form of ratting.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-01-25 10:52:15 UTC
The unknown part of exploration is that you aren't sure if you're going to hit the jackpot or if you're going to plunge deeper down into the spiral of gambling addiction and depression :D

In all seriousness though, having more randomized/procedurally generated exploration sites would be most welcome.
Mordissian
Federal Reserve Bank of New Eden
#9 - 2012-01-25 21:42:57 UTC
St Mio wrote:
Deep Space Probes have a 256AU scan radius... :P


Ok I think i have the solution for this. At 128 and 256 AU DSP will simply show a large red circle as these sigs would be weaker at this kind of range. So DSP will be able to tell you if a system is worth probing but wont give you a warp in, youll still need to hunt around with core probes to actually find the signature.

This will give a reasonable advantage to those who took the time to train astrometrics 5, but not to the point of making it so easy to find.