EVE General Discussion

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- Revamp the reward system
Addresses: 1, 2, 8, 9, 10
Solution: ISK is the primary medium in which products in EVE are exchanged. It has a fairly standard exchange rate with products giving it an implied value. When an NPC spawns ISK as a reward, it gives those players the implied value of ISK. This would be fine if the amount of ISK matched the difficulty in which the task was completed. In the case of incursions, this is skewed which causes problems with the value of ISK. The counter to ISK is products, these products can be valued by players and will exchange them for ISK. Thus leaving the value of incursions up to the market. The amount a fleet is rewarded is also skewed in relation to the fleet size and time it takes to complete a site. The reward per hour is backwards and doesn't scale properly. Head Quarter fleets should receive the highest reward per hour, not Vanguards. The way to fix these problems are to change the primary payout to something other then ISK (LP, item drops, etc.) and then increase the payouts for Assaults and Headquarters. Thus fixing the imbalance of ISK and backwards growth as sites increase.
- Revamp the Sites/AI
Addresses: 2, 4, 5, 6
Solution: Every single site needs to be reviewed and modified as needed. There are several sites that should be either removed, or replaced, with a completely new one. The sites that are currently in play look like a sample tray on a menu. Sites need to play more into the lore of incursions giving players better insight and more/new objectives to complete. Similarly, site spawns need to have some variables within them, no site should have the same exact spawns every single time in the same order, nor should they be completely random. Have different types of waves spawn with different roles. These roles could be attack focused, defensive/avoid focused, ewar focused etc. This requires the fleet to pay attention and react based on whats in front of them, not just go through the motions like they are now. The site difficulty should scale within a fleet size, meaning there should be Hard/Harder/Hardest sites for each of the fleet sizes (Vanguards/Assaults/HQs). Right now fleets can be tailor made to run from site to site with ease, while more standard fleets struggle. Having certain sites that spawn for only the strongest fleets gives normal running fleets less issues finding sites.

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Why do high sec carebears go to low-, null-sec and WH? Because of the higher income despite the hifher risk! (ok null is actually safer than high-sec)
However, highsec incursion destroy the incentives to move out of high. I know many 0.0 dweller who go to hifg-sec to farm incursions and come only to pvp. This is ridiculous!
Solution:
Make incursons a low-sec only event (you can make it even more rewarding then). Furthermore, make sanshas within sites attack capsuleers with criminal flag first! So that it becomes difficult to gank inurson fleets within sites but still possible to catch people at the gates and so on.
+ gives an enormous and much desired boost to low sec
+ pirates get someone to play with
+ Carebears who want to have a higher income will have to learn to pvp or to hire mercs who would protect their farming op.
- bitter tears from some high sec carebears who think eve is WoW in space and that incursions are raids.
+ For CCP: You distinguish your product from all the 08/15 MMOs where you simply grind stuff all day long. Which means less competition.
+ for Factional Warfare: FW Alliances will (sometimes) compete with null-sec gangs who will certainly try to farm low-sec incursions.
+ FW alliances will get additional inflow of members who want to run incursions but lack a proper organisational structure
And before people start to cry. For some reason people were happy to farm WHs even though it is quite risky.
P.S: It would actually solve many problems in this game.

I love most of the ideas you have put into this. It is very well put together and sums up a majority of the problems currently faced by incursion runners. I only have a few issues with the ideas you have to fix the issue.
1: Adding Item Drops to incursions. The big issue I have with this is there is no way EVE players will share the loot. You will have people in the fleet only looking to pick up the drops and not follow what the FC is saying. This will lead to good FCs giving up because they need to kick people all the time for almost losing a few Bil in ships over 1 mod worth a few Mil. Good idea but not practical with most of the eve players in the game.
2: Having the Sites Change how they run. We can’t do this for mission runners, how are we going to do it for Incursions? Not saying it’s a bad idea, just saying it’s impractical. Yes, Eve players are smarter than a majority of the other MMOs, but that’s not much to shake a stick at. One of the big reasons Assaults and HQs are not ran is because there’s still is too much for a new FC to know and think about. The training will get done, but I don’t know anyone in eve that’s willing to be a few Bil ISK Ginny pig. That is also with the current Incursion setup. You add even more stuff that changes, people will stop all in all.
Like I said, you have good ideas and I support most of them, but these two topics are to impractical to work anyway to run them.
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Remove isk rewards entirely, increase LP payout and stop spawning/despawn any sites once the mom has spawned.

How? 0.0 Alliances have neither the equipment nor motivation to run large scale PvE content. Only an idiot would enter low sec in anything other than a pvp fit. PvP fits are incompatible with PvE content.

Sorry but while I could see PvPing in a very expensive ship (not a great idea but I can see doing it), I'm not going to self select to be a victim in an expensive fit.