EVE General Discussion

can't support something that hasn't started yet, talk is just talk and that's all i've seen from Aaron on this.

I oppose anything that makes the shallow rookie pond of hisec a place to stay and play for years on end.
The guy i met in Tolle, ice mining happily, that had never even heard of Spodumain and needed it linked, after 5 years in the game... that guy makes me queasy because he's missing out.
Sure play casual, do what you want, but there's no call for a large organised group to facilitate life in hisec.
Large organised groups are good for guiding people into difficult territory, they exist.
Loose affiliations of hisec groups allow for some intel and socialisation, they have existed for years.
PH, KF and BNI face more than flames n lols on the forums and seem to be thriving, if a hisec venture can't happen it's main obstacles seem to be amateur-planner megalomania and humourless ego.

Aaron is just doing this for attention, he is not serious at all, neither does he have the drive or willpower to pull this off, and it is also to have digs at me as he knows that I was looking into doing something in hisec at one point, but decided not to as I thought hisec was too apathetic and my TZ was not quite right for it.

Something like this would be good with a different direction, in other words to create a coalition to go up against certain war deckers, but Aaron is not the person to do it.

PS Has Aaron worked out that these forums are effectively dead...

I already said were going to do this without the blue list.

All I'd say is speak for yourself, If you don't want to join thats absolutely fine.

I would only ask that you don't try to convince others with your posts, youre free to post your opinion which I can't stop. It would be great if you trolls and negative people could give me a break though.

And I will say again, please don't mistake me for some sort of leader. I am not trying to lead anyone or anything here. Try to view me as a facilitator, a caretaker, an advisor or organiser if you like. I'm not trying to build a massive corp or alliance, I'm not trying to get anyone into Stain, I am simply trying to create a platform for Hi-sec where people can get advice, find friends, or just lay low within Eve for as long as they choose.

I'm only human, I'm just a guy...If youre aware of the history between Drac and I you'll know that I will respond to him if he comes on here trolling. I have responded politely to every other troll here and then ignored if they persisted, Give me a break and acknowledge that I am not perfect and I have never claimed to be.

Allow me to have my perspective, in previous ventures lots of people told me blatantly that they didn't respect the fact I had spent lots of time organising and trying as hard as I could to get more people there. Eve and the people in it can be harsh at times so please allow me the space to start this when I am ready.

Everything about this forum will continue to the next, including your verbosity.

You can see who liked a post over there, so you will probably hate it since it will be obvious you like your own posts. lol

What a cheap attempt at deflection. You know very well I am talking about your alts.

I'm not sure if you know what it is like in a hi-sec corp but it seems they are struggling due to wardecs and they don't know how to fight them. If a hi-sec corp has been wardecced by a wardec corp then their ability to mission, buy supplies, and trade will be severely affected. The issue here is that many eve pilots in corps are finding it difficult to technically support each other and defend structures, It is evident that the functions you say I am duplicating are not working because we still have large numbers of pilots unable to defend their corp members and structures. So here I am with my perspective making myself available to offer advice, my methods are unorthodox and were devised from 14 years of playing.

My venture offers a method of stepping away from the rigours of being in a corp so they have breathing space to earn some money and work out a plan of action for when they do go back to a corp, you seem to be missing the point that many pilots are isolated right now within their corps. Joining this venture as npc will give them some freedom, it's not perfect but it's something.

Speaking honestly, I've not had a bad experience with Galaxy Pig or Ima Wreck you, I've gotten a few likes from them and I have liked a couple of their posts. They haven't trolled like drac and herzog have so for now I am cool with them. I'm fine with them coming after this venture if they keep it as a game and not personal.

You imply I have taken too long to start this, the fact is the wardec situation is not going to change s when I do this it will still benefit people.

You seem to have a negative view, have you read this thread properly?

Which is why I wouldn't duplicate them. I also pointed out that I lived in an alliance that was perma wardecced often by all major deccers for 6 months (greater western co-prosperity scheme). I know exactly what its like.



Your method ignores highsec mechanics, and highsec mechanics are one reason I don't live in highsec. As an NPC corp player I can join a nullsec fleet, and shoot not-purples with no drama. Put simply I can contribute direct fighting power to the cas combat guild, whilst still remaining in newbie chat to help others.

In highsec, its terrible, someone has to give me a limited engagement or go suspect before I can do anything other than suicide gank. Not only that, if you empty a corp of its players, the only ones that will likely return are the ones that know the CEO personally.

You are advocating destroying corps and isolating individuals as a solution to wardecs. Kinda feels like groundhog day, because I've already pointed this out to you.

The correct solution for a corp under a wardec is have the numbers to win and figure out how to apply them, or to move in a disciplined fashion to where the wardeccers are not, so that individuals can function without leaving. Which ever strategy is right for the corp, its certainly possible to provide them with real resources to make that work, and I can think of a massive shopping list of such things.



CODE is completely fine with organised players that fight back. Its what their organisation lives for to try and create by presenting motivation and an easy target.

However if you isolate players, make a nice readable list of them and make them gank fodder, well CODE will also happily continue to do what they do, extorting mining licences from them and shooting their ships free from any fear.

I've got no problem with them roleplaying corner hoods, but you just need to bear in mind they are what they are.


Aaron, I'm almost certainly the only one that has read the thread properly or gives the remotest care about the content of it.

Those people should log on and find a defense fleet they can take part in, or an escape location they can mission in, with someone that can spring them appropriate level missions if they don't have the standing. What they should not log on to is a ghost town corp with all their friends gone.

If you intend on recommending to the individuals in a corporation that they leave said corporation and become some tenuous diaspora, then pretty much every ceo with any sense is going to ban your channel. Your actions will be seen as highly divisive and destructive, and I personally think more destructive than the wardec in the first place.

I'm completely cool that you have a different viewpoint, I just don't like your strategy.



Nope, a falcon is a dead character earning no money and soon to be afk through boredom at a critical point if its an actual person and not an alt, and if its an alt, it will be chronically concerned by its mains escape and not much else. If I'm standing guard over miners, I'll do it from a procurer. If I'm standing guard over ratters, I'll rat myself, and switch on entrance of neuts (which is the natural point in time to choose which ship is ideal to switch into).



It was a renter organisation, that paid ~500b a month to goons, and would have pulled 1T+ a month out for itself. people were there to make money and trying to organize a defense for an attacker that was never going to come to vale was pointless. ie I could have made a whole 0.1% difference to losses by trying to make them a fighting organisation, or I could just earn equivalent to 10% of the monthly losses myself (~4b) by ignoring it.

That is also why I point out that the fundamental solution of moving the corp to a different agent is probably sufficient to retrieve a wardec situation, and it leaves them the option of forming up to defend structure timers, since well ccp has given them a whole week to do so.