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Suggestion for new module Point-defence System

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A8ina
Cyber Naval Command Research and Development
#1 - 2017-07-03 00:02:56 UTC
This module is targeted for the pilots who wish not to cause collateral damage,

The PDS is AoE weapon like smart bomb in damage and range but capable to target only aggressors.

Cade Windstalker
#2 - 2017-07-03 00:23:41 UTC
Why?

Why is this needed, what niche does it fill, and how is it balanced when the main thing that balances a Smartbomb is the fact that it hits *everyone* not just the things you want to hit?

High Sec gankers don't need this kind of tool, and Low and Null fights don't need something that lets them spam AOE with no need to show concern for their allies.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2017-07-03 02:22:29 UTC
So you want a smartbomb.

And all the benefits it provides.

Minus the potential repercussions.

Yeah. No.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#4 - 2017-07-03 05:04:28 UTC
Why would anyone use smartbombs then?

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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A8ina
Cyber Naval Command Research and Development
#5 - 2017-07-03 23:38:30 UTC
How is possible in a futuristic game not to have Point defense system and to have energy pulse weapon that is called smartbomb Roll when is common knowledge that the term smart for weapons indicates precision.
A8ina
Cyber Naval Command Research and Development
#6 - 2017-07-03 23:56:11 UTC
[quote=Cade Windstalker]Why?

Why is this needed, what niche does it fill, and how is it balanced when the main thing that balances a Smartbomb is the fact that it hits *everyone* not just the things you want to hit?

is a back up when your targeting system is disabled / very low DPS like Smartbomb / you be able to use it without being concerned of approaching cloaked ships in high sec.

Smartbomb PVE can't use it and PVP don't need it

Cade Windstalker
#7 - 2017-07-04 03:17:28 UTC
A8ina wrote:
How is possible in a futuristic game not to have Point defense system and to have energy pulse weapon that is called smartbomb Roll when is common knowledge that the term smart for weapons indicates precision.


Because game balance trumps 'realism'. Or more specifically it trumps the various individual ideas of realism that individual players feel should be injected into their spaceship-submarines simulator.

It's also common knowledge for anyone in or even around the military that "Smart weapons aren't".

A8ina wrote:

is a back up when your targeting system is disabled / very low DPS like Smartbomb / you be able to use it without being concerned of approaching cloaked ships in high sec.

Smartbomb PVE can't use it and PVP don't need it



Here's the thing though, smartbombs *aren't* that low DPS. One of the best ways to run quite a few different forms of Null PvE is to use a fully smartbomb fitted ship, because while it doesn't deal as much damage per target as guns or missiles it hits *everything* in range, making it extremely effective overall.

The same thing happens in PvP.

Go look up "Eve Pipebomb" for the relevant tactic and how hilariously effective this can be. One of the main downsides being that you need specific setups, careful positioning, and everyone needs to be running the same bomb type or you blow each other up.

Oh and lets not forget the extreme prevalence of Smartbombs on Capitals in fleet fights to clear drones, fighters, ect. I'm sure every Super and Titan pilot in Eve would *love* to be able to just auto-cycle those things without worrying about killing their own drones or hurting their own subcaps.

Overall I think you have drastically underestimated both the power and existing utility of smartbombs in both PvP and PvE, and therefore don't understand how horribly and utterly broken this would be in reality.
Old Pervert
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2017-07-04 19:56:59 UTC
Smartbombs are smart because they don't blow YOU up.

That said, you are definitely asking for exactly a smartbomb, sans drawbacks. Ask yourself why they have those drawbacks in the first place.