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28B loan/ 15% Uncollateralized over three months
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Liam Lasky
Doomheim
#1 - 2017-06-28 22:30:12 UTC
Hello all,

I am looking to see if anyone can help me with a loan for 28 Billion ISK towards capital ship related things. I've been a bit short and was looking for some investment if anyone would be willing.

No scam. It's deep in goon space to rest assured the investment is protected. (Plus I don't have much as far as collateral goes.

Loan: $28 BIllion
Interest: 15% over three months

Please let me know your concerns and message me IG if you want more details. This is toward me being self sufficient from everyone in my corp (who're all pretty much cap pilots) so this will be EXTREMELY helpful.

Thanks.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#2 - 2017-06-28 23:14:46 UTC
If your corporation is full of cap pilots, why can they not loan you the required amount?

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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2017-06-28 23:24:27 UTC
If your Corp is cap heavy, I'd presume that they might build their own or have a way of getting them cheap? What exactly are you doing with the cap?
Liam Lasky
Doomheim
#4 - 2017-06-28 23:29:35 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
If your Corp is cap heavy, I'd presume that they might build their own or have a way of getting them cheap? What exactly are you doing with the cap?


It's for ratting mostly. I need to be able to solo big sites to do it myself cause I pretty much need something big to do any good out in lvl 5 space. They promised me a free one but I don't have the skills for it, I was gonna ask for 25 bil for injectors and 3 bil for the skillbooks
Liam Lasky
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-06-28 23:30:24 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
If your corporation is full of cap pilots, why can they not loan you the required amount?


They don't wanna tbh. They say they're too busy spending all their money on more caps.
flakeys
Doomheim
#6 - 2017-06-29 13:42:35 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Liam Lasky wrote:


It's for ratting mostly


I don't have the skills for it



25 bil for injectors and 3 bil for the skillbooks



Well if this even had any chance of survival it's definatly R.I.P. now my friend.Hell even making it a secured loan would now have the person loaning it to you ask for 125% collateral just to be sure.

That said what happened to good old fashioned patience and not wanting to be the alpha dog the moment you start something new?Getting there is also part of the game ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#7 - 2017-06-29 13:58:48 UTC  |  Edited by: lanyaie
Liam Lasky wrote:
lanyaie wrote:
If your corporation is full of cap pilots, why can they not loan you the required amount?


They don't wanna tbh. They say they're too busy spending all their money on more caps.



So you want a loan for injectors...how do you intend to pay investors back? Injecting isn't exactly something that actually provides any kind of good returns. Or are you going for the 260m ticks?

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Liam Lasky
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-06-29 16:34:41 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
Liam Lasky wrote:
lanyaie wrote:
If your corporation is full of cap pilots, why can they not loan you the required amount?


They don't wanna tbh. They say they're too busy spending all their money on more caps.



So you want a loan for injectors...how do you intend to pay investors back? Injecting isn't exactly something that actually provides any kind of good returns. Or are you going for the 260m ticks?


Going for ticks. If I can fly the capital then getting the money back on ratting ticks would be no issue in where I live, which is pretty much all lvl 5 space.
RAW23
#9 - 2017-06-29 17:05:41 UTC
How much are you expecting to make an hour? As far as I know, capital ratting, as opposed to supercap, yields about 120mil an hour at best. At that rate you would have to rat for 268 hours over the next three months, or about 90 hours a month, just to pay back the lender with the interest you have promised. You won't actually make any money for yourself until after this point. Even if you were serious about paying this at the start, how can a lender have confidence that you'll actually go through with that commitment, especially as coming here looking for skill injectors suggests a certain impatience on your behalf. Once you've done the equivalent of two forty hour work weeks of ratting for no return and are looking down the barrel of another four or five, can you really be sure that you won't do the easy thing and just say, "screw it"? After all, the coalition you are in would praise you for doing just that and would probably roundly mock you for paying back the loan when there is nothing compelling you to do so.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Liam Lasky
Doomheim
#10 - 2017-06-29 17:34:14 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
How much are you expecting to make an hour? As far as I know, capital ratting, as opposed to supercap, yields about 120mil an hour at best. At that rate you would have to rat for 268 hours over the next three months, or about 90 hours a month, just to pay back the lender with the interest you have promised. You won't actually make any money for yourself until after this point. Even if you were serious about paying this at the start, how can a lender have confidence that you'll actually go through with that commitment, especially as coming here looking for skill injectors suggests a certain impatience on your behalf. Once you've done the equivalent of two forty hour work weeks of ratting for no return and are looking down the barrel of another four or five, can you really be sure that you won't do the easy thing and just say, "screw it"? After all, the coalition you are in would praise you for doing just that and would probably roundly mock you for paying back the loan when there is nothing compelling you to do so.



It's to make the account affordable. So far the space I'm living in is pretty much unsustainable without capital ships, my corp has promised me one but they won't until I have the skills, which will take about 305 days (which is unsustainable). This is for actually being able to live out in this level 5 space and make enough isk to keep living out here. I assure you it would be paid back, but it would require a 7 day grace period in order for the carrier order to be filled. The

and goons can suck it, I'm not in their alliance and I don't talk to them very much anyway.
flakeys
Doomheim
#11 - 2017-06-29 18:07:04 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Liam Lasky wrote:
So far the space I'm living in is pretty much unsustainable without capital ships.




Shocked , ******* hell what has become of this game .... or i should say what has become of it's playerbase.

'Skilltraining?NAh **** that takes too long someone loan me isk so i can buy injectors."
"What's that?Beltratting and lower anomolies?**** that , someone loan me isk so i can buy a capital ship , preferably a super.MAhhhh ticks CCP mahh ticks"

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
RAW23
#12 - 2017-06-29 20:16:14 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Liam Lasky wrote:
So far the space I'm living in is pretty much unsustainable without capital ships.




Shocked , ******* hell what has become of this game .... or i should say what has become of it's playerbase.

'Skilltraining?NAh **** that takes too long someone loan me isk so i can buy injectors."
"What's that?Beltratting and lower anomolies?**** that , someone loan me isk so i can buy a capital ship , preferably a super.MAhhhh ticks CCP mahh ticks"



Damn millennials!

Now, where's my pipe and slippers?

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Strelok Holmes
Shiptoasting In Local
#13 - 2017-06-29 21:46:42 UTC
I'd suggest moving to a C3 and dualboxing Rattlesnakes.
megacorpse
Paradise Holding
#14 - 2017-06-29 22:10:53 UTC
And asking on the forum for the money for those haha. I heard JitaPu might fill that one :P

OFFERING collateralized LOANS (follow the link for details)
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2017-06-29 23:12:12 UTC
I'd would presume that your Corp rats on a consistent basis? Why not tag along in what you can fly and try to get a share of the loot?
Liam Lasky
Doomheim
#16 - 2017-06-29 23:20:28 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I'd would presume that your Corp rats on a consistent basis? Why not tag along in what you can fly and try to get a share of the loot?


I do try but most of them are greedy pricks tbh.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2017-06-29 23:32:12 UTC
Liam Lasky wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I'd would presume that your Corp rats on a consistent basis? Why not tag along in what you can fly and try to get a share of the loot?


I do try but most of them are greedy pricks tbh.


So they won't let you go out with them but will give you a free carrier? How'd you end up with them in the first place?
Liam Lasky
Doomheim
#18 - 2017-06-29 23:59:10 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
Liam Lasky wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I'd would presume that your Corp rats on a consistent basis? Why not tag along in what you can fly and try to get a share of the loot?


I do try but most of them are greedy pricks tbh.


So they won't let you go out with them but will give you a free carrier? How'd you end up with them in the first place?


recruitment channel. Normal stuff really.
flakeys
Doomheim
#19 - 2017-06-30 06:55:44 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Liam Lasky wrote:
So far the space I'm living in is pretty much unsustainable without capital ships.




Shocked , ******* hell what has become of this game .... or i should say what has become of it's playerbase.

'Skilltraining?NAh **** that takes too long someone loan me isk so i can buy injectors."
"What's that?Beltratting and lower anomolies?**** that , someone loan me isk so i can buy a capital ship , preferably a super.MAhhhh ticks CCP mahh ticks"



Damn millennials!

Now, where's my pipe and slippers?



WILMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA .... Lol

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#20 - 2017-06-30 07:45:55 UTC
Liam Lasky wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:
Liam Lasky wrote:
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I'd would presume that your Corp rats on a consistent basis? Why not tag along in what you can fly and try to get a share of the loot?


I do try but most of them are greedy pricks tbh.


So they won't let you go out with them but will give you a free carrier? How'd you end up with them in the first place?


recruitment channel. Normal stuff really.



You left them I see...you're in PH now.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
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