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Taking Sov from someone. Plan it out.

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Thomas Lot
Spatial Forces
Warped Intentions
#1 - 2017-06-16 13:43:11 UTC
Currently we hear that Sov is unassailable due to varying factors: Citadels, Jump Fatigue, TCU - ADM, timers, Entosis boredom, and other ridiculous mechanics that is Fozzie-sov.

ok, we all know the negatives. Plan then. How would you overcome the negatives and take Sov from a group?

Pick a space and present your general plan. Where would you start, where would you base from, what ships do you need, how many pilots, how much time?

Eve needs war. Stagnation is boredom, boredom is what kills games.

Go.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-06-16 14:25:10 UTC
Thomas Lot wrote:
Currently we hear that Sov is unassailable due to varying factors: Citadels, Jump Fatigue, TCU - ADM, timers, Entosis boredom, and other ridiculous mechanics that is Fozzie-sov.

ok, we all know the negatives. Plan then. How would you overcome the negatives and take Sov from a group?

Pick a space and present your general plan. Where would you start, where would you base from, what ships do you need, how many pilots, how much time?

Eve needs war. Stagnation is boredom, boredom is what kills games.

Go.



Arrow lowsec is over there!

Arrow highsec is over there!



Stop bothering null bears or they leave the game!!! Bear

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#3 - 2017-06-16 16:14:15 UTC
Thomas Lot wrote:
Currently we hear that Sov is unassailable due to varying factors: Citadels, Jump Fatigue, TCU - ADM, timers, Entosis boredom, and other ridiculous mechanics that is Fozzie-sov.

ok, we all know the negatives. Plan then. How would you overcome the negatives and take Sov from a group?

Pick a space and present your general plan. Where would you start, where would you base from, what ships do you need, how many pilots, how much time?

Eve needs war. Stagnation is boredom, boredom is what kills games.

Go.


You do realize that war is bad for business?
There is a reason the null sec cartels are happily mining/ratting, and not much else.
Keno Skir
#4 - 2017-06-16 16:28:00 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Thomas Lot wrote:
Currently we hear that Sov is unassailable due to varying factors: Citadels, Jump Fatigue, TCU - ADM, timers, Entosis boredom, and other ridiculous mechanics that is Fozzie-sov.

ok, we all know the negatives. Plan then. How would you overcome the negatives and take Sov from a group?

Pick a space and present your general plan. Where would you start, where would you base from, what ships do you need, how many pilots, how much time?

Eve needs war. Stagnation is boredom, boredom is what kills games.

Go.


You do realize that war is bad for business?
There is a reason the null sec cartels are happily mining/ratting, and not much else.


Yeah, they're all stocking up for the next war.
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2017-06-16 16:38:48 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Thomas Lot wrote:
Currently we hear that Sov is unassailable due to varying factors: Citadels, Jump Fatigue, TCU - ADM, timers, Entosis boredom, and other ridiculous mechanics that is Fozzie-sov.

ok, we all know the negatives. Plan then. How would you overcome the negatives and take Sov from a group?

Pick a space and present your general plan. Where would you start, where would you base from, what ships do you need, how many pilots, how much time?

Eve needs war. Stagnation is boredom, boredom is what kills games.

Go.


You do realize that war is bad for business?
There is a reason the null sec cartels are happily mining/ratting, and not much else.


Dinsdale is back!

We aren't at war because it would be useless to do so. Why would I burn someone's space if I can't prevent him from taking it back right after since all the ADM will be **** and raising them need an occupation force which I don't really have on hand? That occupation force also need new infra to be built if you want them to ever be efficient.

That's on top of the 2 week citadel grind even if I bring such number that I can burn them all on the same timer...
Thomas Lot
Spatial Forces
Warped Intentions
#6 - 2017-06-16 22:03:16 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Thomas Lot wrote:
Currently we hear that Sov is unassailable due to varying factors: Citadels, Jump Fatigue, TCU - ADM, timers, Entosis boredom, and other ridiculous mechanics that is Fozzie-sov.

ok, we all know the negatives. Plan then. How would you overcome the negatives and take Sov from a group?

Pick a space and present your general plan. Where would you start, where would you base from, what ships do you need, how many pilots, how much time?

Eve needs war. Stagnation is boredom, boredom is what kills games.

Go.


You do realize that war is bad for business?
There is a reason the null sec cartels are happily mining/ratting, and not much else.


Dinsdale is back!

We aren't at war because it would be useless to do so. Why would I burn someone's space if I can't prevent him from taking it back right after since all the ADM will be **** and raising them need an occupation force which I don't really have on hand? That occupation force also need new infra to be built if you want them to ever be efficient.

That's on top of the 2 week citadel grind even if I bring such number that I can burn them all on the same timer...



If Dev ever looked at their own forum (doubtful, since reddit seems to be the communication avenue of choice) I hope they would see this.

I already knew the answer. War for Sov is absolutely pointless. Large scale conflict of the type of B-R5RB is gone from the game. Sad, as that is the fight that brought me in.

Now we only have CCP actively trying to milk as much from the cow as they can while they watch numbers slowly dwindle.

And before any of you asshats start talking that this is simply another "Eve is dying post... I would DARE anyone at CCP to post the average daily OMEGA logins (not Alpha) for the past three years.
Rain6637
NulzSec
#7 - 2017-06-17 04:22:23 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#8 - 2017-06-17 05:32:09 UTC
Thomas Lot wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Thomas Lot wrote:
Currently we hear that Sov is unassailable due to varying factors: Citadels, Jump Fatigue, TCU - ADM, timers, Entosis boredom, and other ridiculous mechanics that is Fozzie-sov.

ok, we all know the negatives. Plan then. How would you overcome the negatives and take Sov from a group?

Pick a space and present your general plan. Where would you start, where would you base from, what ships do you need, how many pilots, how much time?

Eve needs war. Stagnation is boredom, boredom is what kills games.

Go.


You do realize that war is bad for business?
There is a reason the null sec cartels are happily mining/ratting, and not much else.


Dinsdale is back!

We aren't at war because it would be useless to do so. Why would I burn someone's space if I can't prevent him from taking it back right after since all the ADM will be **** and raising them need an occupation force which I don't really have on hand? That occupation force also need new infra to be built if you want them to ever be efficient.

That's on top of the 2 week citadel grind even if I bring such number that I can burn them all on the same timer...



If Dev ever looked at their own forum (doubtful, since reddit seems to be the communication avenue of choice) I hope they would see this.

I already knew the answer. War for Sov is absolutely pointless. Large scale conflict of the type of B-R5RB is gone from the game. Sad, as that is the fight that brought me in.

Now we only have CCP actively trying to milk as much from the cow as they can while they watch numbers slowly dwindle.

And before any of you asshats start talking that this is simply another "Eve is dying post... I would DARE anyone at CCP to post the average daily OMEGA logins (not Alpha) for the past three years.


You know that can't happen. What was it, 4 years ago, that CCP marketing stopped crowing about X amount of years of subscriber growth?