EVE General Discussion

Interested to read the dev blog when it is published. Even more interested to provide some feedback if it is moving in the direction I think it might.

Let me ask this... which perhaps will not infringe NDA ... will it be obvious which you guys did like and which you did not like and were you fairly united in those likes and dislikes?

Dex was here.

Our concerns were not micro-transaction related.

Ignoring the prattle from morons, I personally appreciate the CSM also taking the time to keep us informed -as best they can.

With CCP stepping up to the plate on the forums and the CSM now as well, it augers well for the future.

Constructive > Destructive. Always will be.


PS: I still hate you Mittens. Next time, use my first name when you wake me up in the morning!

Indeed… Latent Masochism V does seem to be a pre-requisite for CSM.

We should let CCP Nozh write it then, amirite?

Communication? In my Eve?

CSM Update 1:

A meeting with CCP representatives took place today. We can't reveal the results of the meeting or even what was talked about, but there's cause for optimism since a follow up meeting has been scheduled. An update on that will follow as soon as we know more.

CSM Update 2:

Today's meeting was a mixture of good and bad, and was mostly positive with only about half being negative. Various people attended while various others were not able to make it. We were able to discuss some of the issues of concern, and everyone in attendance agreed we had in fact discussed those issues. At this time the CSM is unable to discuss what we discussed or why we discussed it, however, the CSM members are united in our belief that discussions did occur and there's at least some chance we will be able to freely discuss what was discussed as soon as CCP permits us to reveal that information. The meeting ended on a very positive note and a third meeting was scheduled for tomorrow.

CSM Update 3:

While the substance of today's meeting must remain confidential for obvious reasons, real progress was made toward an unspecified goal. Rest assured, some of your concerns were raised, and while no final decisions were made and no roadmap is available at this time, we're optimistic that this will happen soon. An additional meeting has been scheduled for the end of the month to give all involved parties time to consider these unspecified issues.

CSM Update 4:

Due to NDA restrictions the CSM is currently unable to reveal whether or not this meeting took place or if anyone attended. However, the CSM has scheduled its own meeting to discuss internally some portion of the issues that were previously discussed.

CSM Update 5:

At CCP's request the CSM has agreed to review an edited version of the minutes from the previous meeting, which may or may not have taken place. CCP has informed us that a dev blog will be posted some time between next week and next year explaining what this meeting was about, if in fact it did occur. Unfortunately, at this time the CSM is unable to confirm whether or not such a meeting actually took place due to NDA restrictions. More to follow.

CSM Update 6:

The CSM is pleased to finally be able to announce that some portion of the fixes that were included three patches ago were part of what was discussed in meeting number 1. We feel confident this is the most productive CSM ever and marks a turning point in CCP's relationship with the CSM and the EVE Online community. Be sure to vote for us in the upcoming election to help ensure that we can continue this important work.

As a matter of fact I was bumping the thread, lamenting the overly tight NDA rules and lauding the CSM for their activity all in one short eve-related meme.

Sigh - guess my scintillant wittiness escaped you there...

So just to confirm: the CSM have had some meetings about arranging meetings to discuss how the discussions of those meetings might be (at some undefined point in the future be communicated) to the player base so we, the players, can be better informed regarding how CCP plans (without commitment) to better manage its meeting schedule for planning meetings?

I am also correct in understanding that during this meeting process it has been generally agreed by the parties therein that a "dev blog" describing how CCP met with the CSM to discuss meeting again and that we might hear in the future that a possible meeting date has been arranged subject to the agreement of all parties and in accordance with United Nations mandate 100201B/9 and assuming the astrological alignment of the moons of Jupiter on the second Thursday of the third month providing Scorpio is in the ascendency?

Did I miss anything?

C.

Well, whatever remains of the community at least.

A lot of players walked (including myself) due to frustration. CCP upper management no longer listens to words. Seems the only way to get them to notice is to hit their wallet, one subscription cancellation at a time.