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Don't be ignorant. You know (or should know) that not as many people were carrier/super ratting before the fighter changes. People across EVE were more likely to use AFKtars with multiple characters.

Have you looked at CCPs economic report? Would you like for me to post the one before the fighter changes and the one right after the fighter changes that show a spike in null sec bounties? Would you like to see the zkill stats for the same period that shows more carriers dying with npcs on the KM after the fighter changes (meaning more carriers in anoms)?

Yes carriers and supers became the FOTM for ratting, the proof is available in the places I mentioned if you don't believe this.

Who hasn't experienced the sheer joy and glee of catching a carrier ratting an anom too? Whose going to want to take that risk vs reward gamble now? Just such a novice, unthoughtful move.

All those goon tears, all worth it

Its CCP's way to screw over its player base and try and make some more money before everyone quits and starts playing star citizen when its released

Don't be insulting because you are behind the meta. I have known about carrier ratting and super ratting for years. and have made billions on it. More people have been doing it lately, yes, but that doesn't make it Flavour of the Month. Rorquals, now that is a different story.

There's no need to be rude because you are stuck in your own little world and are afraid to try something else. I was carrier and super ratting long before carriers and fighters were changed and will continue to do so. Who knows? I may start ratting in my titan again and getting even more dank ticks.

Don't think you can look down your nose at anyone because you think your way is best though.

It's not just the nerf, its the size and scope of it as well -- damage coupled with increased targeting from rats -- I didn't believe people when they were telling me about it. I thought, no way they're that rash to nerf two different contributors at the same time but such huge margins...

Guess I was wrong, and as a principle of program design--this is something we are warned in class not to ever do. Don't change multiple variables simultaneously by large margins. Bad things happen.

CCP essentially gave us a paint suppliers to paint them in corners every time they create a gravy train with skill injectors too. Every time they mess up, a large number of player can inject up to the new fad and milk it while it used to be a rather slow process unless you hit the bazaar for a character someone somehow pre-trained for that new niche by accident or were trained for it already for some reason. To avoid backlash from the player base, they really need to get the balancing engine into high gear soon so they can intervene on any badly balanced things they create faster than months after people invested into it.

What is wrong with you?

Just... no. Look, the training time to get into any capital ship should justify their increased damage over subcaps (which in the grand scheme of things isn't really that much when you take into account how easy it is to kill fighters now). Also, while I can understand that super ratting may produce a relatively large increase in money gain, normal carriers before this update still make equal to or less than incursions for a higher CPM. You're paying 2+ billion isk to make roughly 50 mil/tick (150 mil/hour) in a 100% dedicated ratting nidhoggur/thanatos with near max skills. And that's also assuming you're a part of a sov nullsec entity which can support those operations.

With this update, not only will they be easier for both characters and NCPs to kill, but fighters will also do less damage per squadron than a single gecko on any drone ship with decent bonuses. It was already getting difficult to justify using carriers in combat with the fighter sig increase, but now with a TWENTY PERCENT decrease to light fighter damage you're talking about reducing the damage of a carrier from ~2500-3000 dps to ~2000-2400. That's a MASSIVE difference (especially when you're trying to break a fleet's logistics), and with it the only advantage to flying a carrier over a subcap will be their ability to tank enormous amounts of damage. Please for the love of god do not further kill the effectiveness of carriers!

Second good balance change in one relasse? Holy **** CCP, I forgive you pausing my skill queues.