Market Discussions

*yawn*

the length of the loan is 1 month minimum and no max limit until either myself or the borrower wants to end it. at that point, the full 100bil will be returned to the banker with whatever interest left to be paid.

Keno Skir, why don't you take a look at some of the purchases of characters I made through the bazaar forum. Take for example this purchase that I made just this week: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6962173#post6962173

The character I bought came with 81mil SP and I paid 67bil for it. At current market price, it costs 300mil per skill extractor and 755mil per large skill injector. With 81mil SP, I can extract 152 injectors from it. The amount of ISK I can get from each injector would be: (755 * 0.99) - 300 = 447.45mil (taking into account 1% sale tax and 0% broker fee). Total ISK I will get back after extracting the entire character down to 5mil SP will be: 447.45 * 152 injectors = 68.012 billions. So for this purchase, I made about 1bil in profit just by purchasing it. Once extracted, I turned it into an SP farmer. That's how I do not lose the initial capital investment. But like I said, my isk would be stuck in a purchase until I received it in my account, full extract it, and sell the injectors. To process each purchase takes 1-3 days depending on how fast the seller initiate the transfer process. That's why I need more capital so I can work on multiple purchases in parallel.


And that's not the only example. Below are more purchases I made without losing any isk:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6958738#post6958738
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6946868#post6946868

and this one, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6964774#post6964774 , is still being processed as we speak (and will be making a good 2bil profit from purchasing it). you can monitor it and will see that Robert VanOberst will be in the TxivYawg corp sometime tomorrow once transfered to my account. and yes for those of you who pvp around BlackRise, UltimateKen is my frigate PvP alt: https://zkillboard.com/character/96644345/


And let me remind everyone again, if you are not interested in giving out a loan without collateral, please don't bother with this thread. Bashing it would only waste your time.

Regarding me knowing IChooseYou, I didn't say I know him as a close friend. I said I've been doing business with javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');}him and we've chat before. I'm also making payments to him monthly and so you can use him as a source to verify me if needed. No more, no less.



Didn't I say don't waste your time bashing if you are not interested in giving out loan without collateral? Anyway, I doubt you have the isk to loan anyway.... Giving the fact that you did not even know how the SP farming business works... real business person with lots of isk would know and would had considered doing it once upon a time... beside, if i dont get the loan, life goes on. i will still continue to expand my SP farm but at a slower pace.

Well saying it once wasn't good for your business but saying it twice in only 3 posts just screams SCAM to me ....

You aren't going to fill it anyway but the going interest rate for uncollateralised loans is around double what you're offering. I'd post more but I got bored at page 6. They are also tiny requests in comparison to yours. Not a bash, just pointing out your numbers won't work.

You're quite a hypocrite.

Calling people out for posting on your thread while not being interested in providing loans, yet you do the same here
here
here
(quick evesearch on you with the word 'pump') and probably more.



You are not a safe business, this isn't about you being able to repay but if you will.

You say you make about 500m profit per character a month(even though that's not the real sp farming rate but I'll be generous and not bash that too) and an initial profit of like 1b ?

With all the characters in your corp currently, that's only 33b a month.

This loan amount does not have any incentive for you to pay back. Your reputation is non-existent, a couple of posts on the character bazaar do not equal trustworthiness. This loan is not being filled by anyone, believe me or not..

If you have any collateral, I'm sure we can talk further.

I have about 3-4x the amount of sp farming characters you have(I don't even know how many tbh)
I'm sure I know the math better than you.



I'm starting to assume that you're not a good reader. The concern is you paying back, not you making enough to pay back.

He doesn't. He doubts you'll actually pay it. Trust issues for some reason, God knows why.

To be honest, if you have to make a personal attack in each of your posts - you're probably not making a very good point.

Additionally, if you're calling all the MD regulars idiots for pointing out flaws in your posts, doesn't that make you the idiot?
Regardless, please do continue. You're starting to sound very immature and each post you make is decreasing the chances of you ever obtaining a loan on your character.

In your own words: Quote me where I stated that I am a math genius

Additionally I do not "feel" as if you are making a personal attack. Per definition the words you used were: "Stupidity" and "idiots".
I don't know how those words in any meaningful way contributed to this discussion.

All you've done is make an entire post about something I put between parentheses and didn't elaborate on further. Instead of doing that, perhaps it would have been more wise to respond to my other concerns to at least increase your chances of ever obtaining a loan.

Either way, I'm glad you are enjoying this because I am too. It's been a while since we've had this kind of a thread on MD and you seem to respond quite fast, keep it up.