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How much of the game can I play for free?

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Reionder Vinilanki
Dark Tower of Ka
#1 - 2017-06-02 23:47:17 UTC
Hello guys. So I just started playing EVE Online and I really want to play a lot of it and explore a lot of what this game has to offer, but I noticed that many things are restricted to F2P capsuleers. So my question is: How much of the game can I play without having to upgrade it? Can I actually enjoy the EVE Online experience or will I feel handicapped midway through because I can't upgrade my ships? Is it worth it going F2P? Is there a big difference between F2P and paid EVE Online?

I can't afford to upgrade to Omega right now, so that's not an option.

Thank you very much.
Orin Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-06-02 23:53:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Orin Solette
You will be very limited in what you can fly and which skills you can train.

You will not be limited in where you can go and what you can do.

Alphas can PVP, explore/scan, mission/rat, trade, haul, etc.

It is absolutely worth Omega if you plan on playing for a long time because it opens so many doors. If you don't want to pay real money, farm in game money and purchase it. It's not cheap in game either though.
Reionder Vinilanki
Dark Tower of Ka
#3 - 2017-06-03 00:04:27 UTC
Orin Solette wrote:

If you don't want to pay real money, farm in game money and purchase it. It's not cheap in game either though.


Oh I didn't know that. So how does that work? Is it feasible to pay it for free or would only an extremely dedicated player be able to do it? Is it permanent or do I have to buy it every month?

Thanks for responding :)


Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2017-06-03 00:04:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
You can do a lot of things as an Alpha and do them well enough to have fun doing them.

But as many and varied the things you can do as an Alpha, it still pales in comparison to what you can do as an Omega.

Mr Epeen Cool
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#5 - 2017-06-03 00:20:20 UTC
Reionder Vinilanki wrote:
Orin Solette wrote:

If you don't want to pay real money, farm in game money and purchase it. It's not cheap in game either though.


Oh I didn't know that. So how does that work? Is it feasible to pay it for free or would only an extremely dedicated player be able to do it? Is it permanent or do I have to buy it every month?

Thanks for responding :)




you need 500 plex a month to pay for omega. its around 1.4b isk a month. you can supplement though with real money, like if you earn almost all you can grab the rest for like $5. its not too hard to do as an omega, you could do it as an alpha, but i'd honestly focus on knowing if you want to play long term and not focus on grinding to pay for omega tbh

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc.
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
#6 - 2017-06-03 00:22:43 UTC
In Eve doing things and doing things well or efficiently, like in RL, will determine your income levels but not your fun level. Though if your fun IS making income then alpha limits this, yet to learn the game and do anything or everything Eve offers to some degree is possible with Alpha status.

Playing to play, aka earning in game PLEX with isk, is doable though a lot harder for newer characters than most people think and can turn into a physical/mental wall for players trying to always make isk for plex and the constant need kind of like having to earn income to keep the lights, heat and roof over your head in real life. If you are very low income this can occupy all your game time while at higher incomes its more of an afterthought and you have lots of disposable income and stop worrying about it even though its a huge chunk of your normal monthly expenses.

Its ironically better to pay for the game for a few months till you get to that disposable income level for comfort, yet now with unlimited alpha you dont have to worry about this issue if you dont want to. The bigger thing isnt making your first months PLEX its about setting up something that wont burn you out in the grind JUST to play to play again. Getting "any" job isnt hard, but getting a job that will pay for everything you want in life plus extras often is. Use this same mentality with PLEX and youre less likely to burn yourself out on the PLEXing "Free" gameplay treadmill.Blink

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That's right.

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Bjorn Tyrson
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2017-06-03 00:25:58 UTC
Reionder Vinilanki wrote:
Orin Solette wrote:

If you don't want to pay real money, farm in game money and purchase it. It's not cheap in game either though.


Oh I didn't know that. So how does that work? Is it feasible to pay it for free or would only an extremely dedicated player be able to do it? Is it permanent or do I have to buy it every month?

Thanks for responding :)




I'm going to tell you the same thing that I got told when I first started playing. back then it was very common advice but somewhere along the road we stopped giving it out which I think is a shame.

Yes you can pay for your game time with IG money, but it takes a lot of work to get to that point on a consistent basis.
sure there are stories of people who got very lucky doing exploration and payed for their omega time within 2 days of starting a new alpha character. but those where experienced players who knew what they where doing and even then luck played a big part of it.

when I started I was told just to enjoy the game, learn how to play, and have fun for at least the first year before even THINKING about trying to plex my account. I never took that advice, and I sorely wish I had, instead I spent every day chasing the almighty isk trying to get to that elusive "play for free" state. which just caused me to burn out, I never took out ships to pvp because every loss put me that much further from my "goal" of the plex. when my goal should have just been to have fun.

for now, I'd say don't worry about trying to plex your account (and yes you need to do it every month) and just have fun playing as an alpha clone. if you enjoy it enough that you want to keep going, then shell out for a month or three of omega and see how much better that is (answer, its totally worth it). eventually you will learn how the game works, and how best to make isk. and once you know how to do that, you will know how plausible it is for you to start plexing your account. and frankly, by the time you get there you will probably do what most of us do, and keep paying a for your main account and use the plex for alts as you want or need them.
Reionder Vinilanki
Dark Tower of Ka
#8 - 2017-06-03 00:30:11 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
In Eve doing things and doing things well or efficiently, like in RL, will determine your income levels but not your fun level. Though if your fun IS making income then alpha limits this, yet to learn the game and do anything or everything Eve offers to some degree is possible with Alpha status.

Playing to play, aka earning in game PLEX with isk, is doable though a lot harder for newer characters than most people think and can turn into a physical/mental wall for players trying to always make isk for plex and the constant need kind of like having to earn income to keep the lights, heat and roof over your head in real life. If you are very low income this can occupy all your game time while at higher incomes its more of an afterthought and you have lots of disposable income and stop worrying about it even though its a huge chunk of your normal monthly expenses.

Its ironically better to pay for the game for a few months till you get to that disposable income level for comfort, yet now with unlimited alpha you dont have to worry about this issue if you dont want to. The bigger thing isnt making your first months PLEX its about setting up something that wont burn you out in the grind JUST to play to play again. Getting "any" job isnt hard, but getting a job that will pay for everything you want in life plus extras often is. Use this same mentality with PLEX and youre less likely to burn yourself out on the PLEXing "Free" gameplay treadmill.Blink


I see. Well, my main focus is to explore and play with others, although I would really like to have some nice ships and stuff, but that's secondary. So, I should try to grow and obtain better ways of income inside the game before thinking about upgrading to Omega. I'll try to do that. Thank you for the advice Smile
Reionder Vinilanki
Dark Tower of Ka
#9 - 2017-06-03 00:36:41 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Reionder Vinilanki wrote:
Orin Solette wrote:

If you don't want to pay real money, farm in game money and purchase it. It's not cheap in game either though.


Oh I didn't know that. So how does that work? Is it feasible to pay it for free or would only an extremely dedicated player be able to do it? Is it permanent or do I have to buy it every month?

Thanks for responding :)




I'm going to tell you the same thing that I got told when I first started playing. back then it was very common advice but somewhere along the road we stopped giving it out which I think is a shame.

Yes you can pay for your game time with IG money, but it takes a lot of work to get to that point on a consistent basis.
sure there are stories of people who got very lucky doing exploration and payed for their omega time within 2 days of starting a new alpha character. but those where experienced players who knew what they where doing and even then luck played a big part of it.

when I started I was told just to enjoy the game, learn how to play, and have fun for at least the first year before even THINKING about trying to plex my account. I never took that advice, and I sorely wish I had, instead I spent every day chasing the almighty isk trying to get to that elusive "play for free" state. which just caused me to burn out, I never took out ships to pvp because every loss put me that much further from my "goal" of the plex. when my goal should have just been to have fun.

for now, I'd say don't worry about trying to plex your account (and yes you need to do it every month) and just have fun playing as an alpha clone. if you enjoy it enough that you want to keep going, then shell out for a month or three of omega and see how much better that is (answer, its totally worth it). eventually you will learn how the game works, and how best to make isk. and once you know how to do that, you will know how plausible it is for you to start plexing your account. and frankly, by the time you get there you will probably do what most of us do, and keep paying a for your main account and use the plex for alts as you want or need them.


Thank you for the advice, Bjorn. I'll do that Smile
Revis Owen
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#10 - 2017-06-03 01:43:32 UTC
Reionder Vinilanki wrote:
Hello guys. So I just started playing EVE Online and I really want to play a lot of it and explore a lot of what this game has to offer, but I noticed that many things are restricted to F2P capsuleers.


However, you are getting more than your money's worth.

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#11 - 2017-06-03 03:14:54 UTC
With respect, if you can't afford $10.95 per month, you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#12 - 2017-06-03 03:31:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
With respect, if you can't afford $10.95 per month, you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place.


Good grief!

Just once, I'd like to get through at least the first page before someone comes in to try and shame a curious new player into quitting before he even gets his foot in the door.

Plus, it's a lie. What the player with no class above is suggesting is that you pay for a yearly sub. That's actually $130.00.

OP, ignore him and any more like him that will pile on shortly. There are actually good people here that would love to give you advice and see you succeed. The status quo tards are few, but loud. They hate the idea of competition for their PVE playstyle.

Mr Epeen Cool
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#13 - 2017-06-03 07:31:19 UTC
Reionder Vinilanki wrote:
Hello guys. So I just started playing EVE Online and I really want to play a lot of it and explore a lot of what this game has to offer, but I noticed that many things are restricted to F2P capsuleers. So my question is: How much of the game can I play without having to upgrade it? Can I actually enjoy the EVE Online experience or will I feel handicapped midway through because I can't upgrade my ships? Is it worth it going F2P? Is there a big difference between F2P and paid EVE Online?

I can't afford to upgrade to Omega right now, so that's not an option.

Thank you very much.




Free is free. But there are limitations.

But since you are new, you don't know the "sting" so to speak until you reach those limits. So here is as chance for you to really make something of your experience within these limits and push at them.

Then you can decide later on if you want to go Omega.


That's what I would suggest to you. Sure there is not a lot you can do, but if you had an Omega account right now, unless you forked over more money for SP, you would not be ahead of the game.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#14 - 2017-06-03 07:53:32 UTC
You can join pandemic horde or karma fleet and have some fun in null. Considering that some people never have been to low sec, that is quite a thing. You can fly everywhere with your space bros.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#15 - 2017-06-03 08:36:56 UTC
The important part of Eve is to find a like minded community and have fun. The Alpha account will let you try stuff and see if Eve is right for you. There are corporations that specialize in training new players and they enjoy a very high conversion rate. Brave Newbies says that 70% of their Alphas end up subscribing. Eve can be a lot of fun when you know how but the learning curve is steep - more like a cliff. People who try to scale it alone rarely succeed. http://evenews24.com/2017/05/29/eve-grows-welcomes-newbros-and-ch-ch-changes-part-ii/

If playing the full game for free is one of your goals, the easiest way is industry - practically the only way unless you move to lawless space where rewards for exploration and ratting are substantially higher. Earning ISK does require time and is only worth it if you enjoy the activity. Grinding to make your PLEX leads to burnout. If the activity you enjoy doesn't make a lot of ISK, you can substitute real world money - CCP is happy to sell you game time or PLEX you can exchange for ISK in-game.

CCP is a business, the developers and operations crew expect pay checks. No subscribers = no game. It's up to you to decide whether your getting good value for your money.
Lukka
#16 - 2017-06-03 12:10:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lukka
To be quite honest, not enough. I'm not entirely sure I'm happy with CCP's half-baked attempt at a free to play option. For a game of this age they should simply be able to decide if they want to make all content accessible to free to play or not. I don't care which they pick as long as they go all in. The current setup is both excessively constrictive and remarkably confusing to alpha clone players.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2017-06-03 13:34:27 UTC
Reionder Vinilanki wrote:
Orin Solette wrote:

If you don't want to pay real money, farm in game money and purchase it. It's not cheap in game either though.


Oh I didn't know that. So how does that work? Is it feasible to pay it for free or would only an extremely dedicated player be able to do it? Is it permanent or do I have to buy it every month?

Thanks for responding :)



Extremely dedicated for paying with isk, it costs a lot.
But if you manage to get game time for a while it doesn't take very long to skill up into planetary interaction. 3 characters on one account running some pi can definitely Plex an account.
voetius
Grundrisse
#18 - 2017-06-03 14:25:43 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Reionder Vinilanki wrote:
Hello guys. So I just started playing EVE Online and I really want to play a lot of it and explore a lot of what this game has to offer, but I noticed that many things are restricted to F2P capsuleers.


However, you are getting more than your money's worth.


Indeed.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#19 - 2017-06-03 20:28:57 UTC
I think alpha should probably last you a month or two. many players want to go bigger and faster, but without training support skills and learning the mechanics that are needed to thrive. I found a 2 week old player in a battleship in a belt in lowsec, and I killed them in a t1 cruiser that was set up for our alliance t1 fit t1 cruiser fights. If they were using the right ship for the situation they would have been in either a destroyer or cruiser. Those ships are much faster and match the rats that spawned in those belts, they are also much cheaper.

after a month or so I'd guess you will have enough isk and game knowledge that you will want to move bigger ships or want to pursue a path that requires some omega skills. This is where you have to make another choice. You can either pay, start the long grind for a plex, or try a different profession. Maybe mission running gets boring rather quickly it might make sense to try exploration or join a null sec group that is newbro friendly they may have some more creative methods for you to get isk faster.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#20 - 2017-06-03 21:07:35 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
I think alpha should probably last you a month or two. many players want to go bigger and faster, but without training support skills and learning the mechanics that are needed to thrive. I found a 2 week old player in a battleship in a belt in lowsec, and I killed them in a t1 cruiser that was set up for our alliance t1 fit t1 cruiser fights. If they were using the right ship for the situation they would have been in either a destroyer or cruiser. Those ships are much faster and match the rats that spawned in those belts, they are also much cheaper.

after a month or so I'd guess you will have enough isk and game knowledge that you will want to move bigger ships or want to pursue a path that requires some omega skills. This is where you have to make another choice. You can either pay, start the long grind for a plex, or try a different profession. Maybe mission running gets boring rather quickly it might make sense to try exploration or join a null sec group that is newbro friendly they may have some more creative methods for you to get isk faster.




Indeed. One of the upsides of alpha clones is that it gives new players a free chance to fill out a limited boundary and make the best of it and this I think will make them better omegas later if they decide to sub.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

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