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[June] Nullsec Asteroid Cluster and Excavator Drone changes

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Alux Vemane
Zonk Squad
Goonswarm Federation
#301 - 2017-06-02 11:31:12 UTC
Healthy economy just for CCP's profits. X
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#302 - 2017-06-02 11:40:19 UTC
I find it absolutely hilarious that CCP has a 15% off sale on skill extractors this weekend. Talk about perfect timing!

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Panther X
Dreadnoughtz Conclave
Requiem Eternal
#303 - 2017-06-02 11:49:04 UTC
Are games not supposed to be fun? Am I missing something?

Eve is going the way of having an abscessed tooth that you cant get an emergency dental visit for and have to suffer for a week.

Eve is the only counter-intuitive game around; where the technology gets worse with each successive pass, rather than blossoming with new technology and innovations.

Isn't technology supposed to improve with each generation?

It seems to me New Eden is backwards. Our tech keeps going backwards in time.

"Our ships are too powerful Your Highness, we better make them not so powerful, so that the Cursed Minmatar do not whine (not win) so much."

What kind of silly logic is that?

This is the only game i know where the developers keep throwing carrots out in front of us, but once we get them they are moldy and covered in dog crap.

But wait a shiny new skin!
It's shiny!
It has gold stripes!

My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...

Raindeth
FACTION Inc.
Still Irrelevant
#304 - 2017-06-02 11:49:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Raindeth
FT Diomedes wrote:
I find it absolutely hilarious that CCP has a 15% off sale on skill extractors this weekend. Talk about perfect timing!


Anyone with rorqual skills should be given 5 free skill extractors. CCP profiting with real money spent on skill extractors after nullsec bears being baited on a free colossal is hella dodgy. But, then again, this is Eve.

Kudos on making nullsec cry over a mining nerf, too. I could never have predicted that 2 years ago! Kinda makes you elite organizations jealous that you cannot extract tears so easily, eh?
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#305 - 2017-06-02 12:01:03 UTC
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Logan Jakal
Echelon Research
Goonswarm Federation
#306 - 2017-06-02 12:03:52 UTC
I usually don't complain about CCP ideas, but this, this is just the WORST bullshit I saw by far. I mean, at this rate, just close the servers because it's the only thing you are going to achieve with what you are currently doing.

I can understand the ore yield nerfing, but what's with the ******* speed and anomaly repop ? At what moment did this sound like a possible good idea for you guys ? That's the real question. Nerfing the yield for the third time is already a dickmove since you knew since the start that Rorqs would be an isk fountain, but that, that I don't understand.
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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#307 - 2017-06-02 12:11:46 UTC


CCP need to understand one thing the "community" pay to play this game "community = the individuals who pay the green dollas to play it now ive got everyone attention excellent.

Rorqual went on field to make the pvpers happy then the market goes to **** then nerf then nerf the nerf for the nerf. So can CCP nerf the nerf that did rorqual nerf ?

So the Question is whats the next nerf


RIP the Rorqual
elise densi
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#308 - 2017-06-02 12:13:23 UTC
next thing will be paying sov bills with plex
Logan Jakal
Echelon Research
Goonswarm Federation
#309 - 2017-06-02 12:21:55 UTC
Oh and I forgot to mention, what's coming later this year in December ? Moon Mining ! I guess that the nerf is totally innocent and has nothing to see with the upcoming changes heh CCP ?

I'm just gonna extract and sell my Rorquals since CCP has decided to go fully ******** on these changes. Maybe one day you guys will start to actually have good ideas that don't involve abusive nerfings to boost your profits (because I guess the initial Rorq changes made a lot of PLEX and injectors sales heh CCP ?).
ChewChewChew
It's not slavery if she is enjoying it.
Politically Correct Legion
#310 - 2017-06-02 12:22:12 UTC
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#311 - 2017-06-02 12:22:53 UTC
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Napalm Morning
Not Great. Not terrible
#312 - 2017-06-02 12:33:12 UTC
Logan Jakal wrote:
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I can understand the ore yield nerfing, but what's with the ******* speed and anomaly repop ? At what moment did this sound like a possible good idea for you guys ? That's the real question. Nerfing the yield for the third time is already a dickmove since you knew since the start that Rorqs would be an isk fountain, but that, that I don't understand.

It is really sad you don't understand the only good change they plan to make. Are you living in Goon space?

This is an awesome way to make superclusters of the largest groups spread around and not mine with 10 rorquals in a single system.
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#313 - 2017-06-02 12:34:06 UTC
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#314 - 2017-06-02 12:41:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
I said this about the T3C thing, I didn't even see this one coming, man, I should have called a stock broker and invested in Corn Futures Twisted

I know people are angry and even some of my friends are annoyed by this. This is another example of CCP foolishly getting people hooked on something that is too good to be in the game , then nerfing it and seeming acting surprised by the negativity. It happened with incursions (the 1st version of incursions were insane isk pumps, then CCP nerfed them and whole communities died, the thread about it was much like this one), did it with FW missions, and other things.

I imagine that CCP made the "Super Capital Mistake" again ie thinking that 'cost or risk were going to limit the numbers of people doing the activity so it's fine that it's so powerful'. But how many times does this have to happen before you learn that people WILL find a way to exploit things that are better than they should be?

These nerfs are probably necessary (oh crap, why are there pitchforks flying through my window as I said that) and the angry folks should come around to thinking about how this might actually help some (with rebounding mineral prices for example). But yea CCP, stop doing it like this, you generate unnecessary angst when you buff too much then are forced to nerf later.
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Hookers N' Blow
#315 - 2017-06-02 12:43:00 UTC
Alux Vemane wrote:
Healthy economy just for CCP's profits. X


Must be a european socialist.

Yes more money for CCP. They run a business, they have employee's to pay, they have costs, they have to make a profit. If every player in the game paid for their subscriptions with ISK how would these people feed their families?

While you are at it can tweak drop rates on faction modules. In some cases faction modules are cheaper than T2 modules which seems excessive. Maybe balance it with more drops of more expensive modules.

Also where are the QOL/Tiericde etc you've announced 5x already.

Good to see CCP watching these things and balancing them.
Napalm Morning
Not Great. Not terrible
#316 - 2017-06-02 12:43:14 UTC
Time for Fozzie to change the company. His team has obviously ran out of idea or refuse to hire someone who understands how industry works.

1st nerf - We can all agree 300-350M per hour yield was insane.
2nd - Still above 200M. Not cool, we accepted it.

Now you want to drop yields below 120M and baited ppl into investing tens of billions in rorqs.

Kudos for the anom respawns that will limit the superpowers' clusters that break down the economy, mining with 10-15 rorqs pwr system.
Apart from that, all other ideas were ********.
Roci Nantes
Brand Newbros
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#317 - 2017-06-02 12:43:32 UTC
My limited mining window means it's time to go back to pewpewing rats for the iskies. Just need to mine as hard as I can till this happens. It's sad cause I liked my rorq. I can let that toon go alpha though since that's all it flys.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#318 - 2017-06-02 13:02:26 UTC
Napalm Morning wrote:
[quote=Logan Jakal]I


This is an awesome way to make superclusters of the largest groups spread around and not mine with 10 rorquals in a single system.


That is so manifestly untrue it is not funny.

If they want to make it harder to mine with 10 Rorquals at once, then add a Fighter-type interface to the Excavator drones. I've said from the beginning that Excavator drones should have been fighters.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#319 - 2017-06-02 13:04:48 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I said this about the T3C thing, I didn't even see this one coming, man, I should have called a stock broker and invested in Corn Futures Twisted

I know people are angry and even some of my friends are annoyed by this. This is another example of CCP foolishly getting people hooked on something that is too good to be in the game , then nerfing it and seeming acting surprised by the negativity. It happened with incursions (the 1st version of incursions were insane isk pumps, then CCP nerfed them and whole communities died, the thread about it was much like this one), did it with FW missions, and other things.

I imagine that CCP made the "Super Capital Mistake" again ie thinking that 'cost or risk were going to limit the numbers of people doing the activity so it's fine that it's so powerful'. But how many times does this have to happen before you learn that people WILL find a way to exploit things that are better than they should be?

These nerfs are probably necessary (oh crap, why are there pitchforks flying through my window as I said that) and the angry folks should come around to thinking about how this might actually help some (with rebounding mineral prices for example). But yea CCP, stop doing it like this, you generate unnecessary angst when you buff too much then are forced to nerf later.


I agree with this. I guess I am so irritated by it because when I saw the initial numbers I was like "that's insane! that can't be right! It won't last!" So I expected the first couple of nerfs. It's this one that I was surprised by. That and it totally screws you if you live in the wrong time zone and can only play for a couple of hours a day.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#320 - 2017-06-02 13:06:47 UTC
Roci Nantes wrote:
My limited mining window means it's time to go back to pewpewing rats for the iskies. Just need to mine as hard as I can till this happens. It's sad cause I liked my rorq. I can let that toon go alpha though since that's all it flys.


And of course you won't be alone in that. More people will rat, pumping more raw isk into EVE, doing crazy things to the economy, which will in turn prompt CCP to 'rebalance' null sec anoms, which will cause a repeat of the anom massacre of 2011, which in turn will shove those ratting former rorq pilots to find other ways to make isk (last time it happened the wait time for high sec incursion fleets got REAL long lol).

It's like some BS merry-go-round that CCP doens't know how to get off of lol.